Topic: 1970 351C detailing

[ExportMach]

Ive seen the detailing guide Marcus Anghel has produced for the 428 and have been looking for a similar guide to assist in detailing my 351C. Is anyone aware of such a guide/reference?

[Coralsnake]

Yes I believe I have one. Please drop me an email. Coralsnake68@hotmail.com

[cobrajet_carl]

This is a decent starting point, although there are obviously a lot of differences between a plain jane 351C and a Boss:
http://www.mustangandfords.com/how-to/engine/1609-boss-351-engine-detailing/

[J_Speegle]

Anything in particular that your having difficulty on or are focusing on? Maybe we can help that way.

[ExportMach]

Thanks for your replies, Pete, Carl and Jeff.
I will email you, Pete. I cant wait to see what you have.
I never thought about searching for Boss 351 detailing. Great idea, Carl !!
No particular issue yet, Jeff. I was thinking I could use the 428 detailing guide and use any similarities (i.e. bracket colors/plating etc) and apply that detail to my motor until I get new info or a judge offers correction suggestions.

[Coralsnake]

You should receive an email later today.

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[J_Speegle]

Thanks for your replies, Pete, Carl and Jeff.
I will email you, Pete. I cant wait to see what you have.
I never thought about searching for Boss 351 detailing. Great idea, Carl !!
No particular issue yet, Jeff. I was thinking I could use the 428 detailing guide and use any similarities (i.e. bracket colors/plating etc) and apply that detail to my motor until I get new info or a judge offers correction suggestions.

Maybe this is a good time to review the factory assembly manual for assembling and painting those engines. Have the pages but I'm restricted from posting

Would be good in the long run to post at least the important details from the pages for you and others that will follow.  We'll see how it goes

[ExportMach]

I found this image in the May 1975 MPC. Its a rendering of the expected product so there may be some differences from production but its got some details that answer a couple of questions for me.

[J_Speegle]

I found this image in the May 1975 MPC. Its a rendering of the expected product so there may be some differences from production but its got some details that answer a couple of questions for me.

Since the drawing was not meant to be a source of details what details did you see that you believe help you?  Just asking so that they might be cross referenced with real production vehicles.

[ExportMach]

Since the drawing was not meant to be a source of details what details did you see that you believe help you?  Just asking so that they might be cross referenced with real production vehicles.

The oil cap/elbow/breather hose, the fan, the coil location, distributor vacuum diaphram, snorkle heat tube/vacuum motor and air cleaner decal location. My Mach did not have the entire air cleaner assembly when I bought it so trying to piece together what should be there based on the MPC has been challenging. I'm thankful for the pics I've found of unrestored Machs like mine on this site but recognize that there MAY be missing/different pieces. Having detailing pics from experts is a big help too.

[cobrajet_carl]

I will be rebuilding a 1970 351C-4V fairly soon and maybe I can document the process and Jeff can tell me when I do things wrong Oh and my fan does not look anything like the one in the picture.

[J_Speegle]

The oil cap/elbow/breather hose, the fan, the coil location, distributor vacuum diaphram, snorkel heat tube/vacuum motor and air cleaner decal location. My Mach did not have the entire air cleaner assembly when I bought it so trying to piece together what should be there based on the MPC has been challenging.

Remember that MPC's show what Ford carried at the time for the application (often what would work) not always what came on the car originally. If you could find a late 70 copy it would likely have better information

BTW have over a dozen M code examples (unrestored) with vacuum motors on the snorkel. A few shown below

[J_Speegle]

I will be rebuilding a 1970 351C-4V fairly soon and maybe I can document the process...............

Might be a good idea for those who need or will need details on this particular unstudied engine and year. At least it would help figure out what we can't confirm and need to search out while compiling what we can support/document.

Sort of what we do for most subject here on the site

[ExportMach]

I will be rebuilding a 1970 351C-4V fairly soon and maybe I can document the process and Jeff can tell me when I do things wrong Oh and my fan does not look anything like the one in the picture.

Interesting. The MPC I have doesnt differentiate between 2bbl and 4bbl 351C. What does your 4bbl have for a fan? Part no visible?

[cobrajet_carl]

Interesting. The MPC I have doesnt differentiate between 2bbl and 4bbl 351C. What does your 4bbl have for a fan? Part no visible?

Actually the four blade C8SE-A fan would be correct if no A/C and a 3.00 or 3.25 axle. Based on my limited collection of build sheets it appears that if one got A/C or a 3.50 or 3.91 axle with an M code, you got a 24" radiator with a five blade fan C8SE-B. Also a 3.5" driveshaft for autos and a 31 spline rear end for the numerically higher axles.

Well I guess I should know by now not to speak in absolute terms. I just looked at a build sheet for an M code auto with a 3.00 axle and no A/C or extra cooling and it has a C8SE-B fan. As do all other autos, even those with a 351W.