Topic: When is a Mustang a 64,5??

[slim]

I'm lovin this thread! So apparantly no fastbacks were 64-1/2.

[CharlesTurner]

I'm lovin this thread! So apparantly no fastbacks were 64-1/2.

Dang, you really ought to hang out here more often!

[J_Speegle]

I'm lovin this thread! So apparantly no fastbacks were 64-1/2.

Of course there were protoypes and the likes - but no regular production ones with VINs before the cut off points offered here.

[Jerry]

Just one more question,...
So every Mustang built after August 17 1964 is considered as a 65 correct?
Or the other way,....every car exactly built till August 17 1964 is a 1964 1/2?

[carlite65]

64 1/2 is just a hobbyist/enthusiast term. they are all titled as 65's. ford never used the term 64 1/2.

[CharlesTurner]

64 1/2 is just a hobbyist/enthusiast term. they are all titled as 65's. ford never used the term 64 1/2.

Actually, I've heard that Ford service departments created the term as they found the vast differences in mechanical and electrical components and needed a way to differentiate the term.  I've also found reference to "1/2" models in period Ford documentation.  There were some documents with the term 1965 1/2 models even.

Jerry:  No, the date is not specific, it is a general guideline.  The last 6 digits of the VIN are the truth, no matter what the scheduled build date is.

[Jerry]

I know but when is the point from where we call it a 65?
When was the point when all these little differences wich
make a "64 1/2" stop and 65 parts where used for production?

Oh heck where did i read this with the numbers?
Any link please?

Jerry

[CharlesTurner]

I know but when is the point from where we call it a 65?
When was the point when all these little differences wich
make a "64 1/2" stop and 65 parts where used for production?

Jerry

Probably early August '64 was the actual start-up of alternator-car production at San Jose and Dearborn.  As we've mentioned before, many parts, mostly trim, were continued to be used in production.  Some of the parts that are coined as "64.5" can be found on '65 models as late as March of '65.  For instance, the clip on door handles and windshield wiper posts with chrome bases.

[slingslingbinks]

I have a F code 64 1/2 with a 65-66 Rad. Support in it. I gotta find a Louver'd Rad. Support for it.

[priceless]

I just searched 64.5 start/stop dates here and this thread came up.

I am looking at an early 65 Mustang coupe, 6 cyl. San Jose car. With a VIN of 5R07T132007 The build date on the warranty plate is, 8/21/64. I know that the warranty plate is the "proposed" build date. So, I'm asking, is this Mustang considered a '65?

It has the original paint (with normal wear), very sound undercarriage, slight blistering in the P.S. lower Q-panel. but has several leaks under the tranny and engine. Carpet has been replaced but the seats look original. All in all, an exceptional Mustang. It's Rangoon Red, a pretty nice little Mustang.

I'm wanting to get a general consensus of what you guys think its worth.

Thanks for any help......I'll let you know what his asking price is after I get some prices...
 

[midlife]

True San Jose 65 (not 64.5) VINs start at 125000.  You have a very early 65.

[mjd 65]

Actually, I've heard that Ford service departments created the term as they found the vast differences in mechanical and electrical components and needed a way to differentiate the term.  I've also found reference to "1/2" models in period Ford documentation.  There were some documents with the term 1965 1/2 models even.

Jerry:  No, the date is not specific, it is a general guideline.  The last 6 digits of the VIN are the truth, no matter what the scheduled build date is.

I've noticed the reference to 65-1/2 as well in Ford documents.  Below is a quote from the 65 Mustang Illustrated Facts book referring to the GT equipment group being introduced in "1965-1/2."

[J_Speegle]

Ford used 1/2 in many of the years to indicate something introduced in the spring. Did it in 69 for the Boss 302's in some documents.

[cobraboy]

I've noticed the reference to 65-1/2 as well in Ford documents.  Below is a quote from the 65 Mustang Illustrated Facts book referring to the GT equipment group being introduced in "1965-1/2."

I see the book says 21.7 :1 steering ratio for the GT.

Is this fact correct ? I always thought it to be 16:1

[rocket289k]

I see the book says 21.7 :1 steering ratio for the GT.

Is this fact correct ? I always thought it to be 16:1

The GT steering ratio is indeed 16:1.  That book as a typo.

   16:1 Quick Ratio - used on Power steering and all GT's (1965 - 1970)

   19:1 Slow Ratio - used on Manual Steering cars  (1965 - 1970)
 

A good resource for Steering Box codes and ratios is http://www.stangerssite.com/steeringboxtagdecoder.html

Regards,

Ron