Author Topic: Coupe Interior to trunk Divider - 67 San Jose  (Read 534 times)

Offline J_Speegle

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Coupe Interior to trunk Divider - 67 San Jose
« on: June 21, 2020, 08:59:10 PM »
NOTE: The first five posts were separated from another thread, we got away from a specific production period and focused on only part of the OP request. MY FAULT ::) So to give the OP respectful consideration to their request and to also study this subject further splitting is the best choice


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Looking at pictures it appears that there were two suppliers/versions of the divider panel. One the press paper (same material as used on convertible dividers) version and the other the jute version. In the picture below the upper left is the paper and the lower right the black/gray jute

Does not appear on first look to be a early/late thing but that may develop with a more thorough look





From  quick look to a collection I had already separated

Jute - 7R126xxx, 7R1394xx, 7R1680xx,

Paper - 7R213xxx, 7R239xxx

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Re: Coupe Interior to trunk Divider - 67 San Jose
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2020, 11:35:03 PM »
Jeff that is interesting, I have never seen a original car with any thing but the jute pad. The original jute pad was a dark grey material. It is very hard to find one intact as it is favorite mouse nest material. The reproduction material is not close to the original. At the very least has to be dyed or painted. I know the press board panels were used on the 65-66 cars.
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Re: Coupe Interior to trunk Divider - 67 San Jose
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2020, 02:46:29 AM »
Marty : A little clarification please : when you say you have never seen "any (67) car", do you mean any Coupe, Fastback, or Convertible ? The reason I ask is because my January 1967 Dearborn Convertible has its original "press paper/ press board (or I call it cardboard) Trunk Divider.

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Re: Coupe Interior to trunk Divider - 67 San Jose
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2020, 08:32:25 AM »
Marty : A little clarification please : when you say you have never seen "any (67) car", do you mean any Coupe, Fastback, or Convertible ? The reason I ask is because my January 1967 Dearborn Convertible has its original "press paper/ press board (or I call it cardboard) Trunk Divider.

Bob

Only on the coupe.

 A bit of extra information the convertibles the had rear folding glass were the only ones to have the press board divider.
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Re: Coupe Interior to trunk Divider - 67 San Jose
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2020, 02:45:10 PM »
To add, the press board divider used in the convertibles that had rear folding glass were much more water resistant composition material then the other .
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Re: Coupe Interior to trunk Divider - 67 San Jose
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2020, 04:46:28 PM »
Jeff that is interesting, I have never seen a original car with any thing but the jute pad. The original jute pad was a dark grey material. It is very hard to find one intact as it is favorite mouse nest material. The reproduction material is not close to the original. At the very least has to be dyed or painted. I know the press board panels were used on the 65-66 cars.

Yes the just is often torn or sagging depending on how the car was stored and the pressed paper tears and breaks apart so we find few intact in either style.

Yes interesting. Appears to be the same material as used on the 65 and 66 though don't have a picture from the interior side to see what that side looked like.

Kind of interesting that I could find a couple of examples with VIN's in a similar range if they weren't installed at the plant. Don't think owners would make one for a car (most didn't seem to car when they disintegrated and fell apart)  and don't know were they would get the large sheet they would need to make one from. So that in conjunction with multiple findings so far, IMHO we should at least be open to the fact that they were used at least at San Jose for a period. We've discovered so many other details unknown this way over the decades.

Looking a closer at the example posted above since it is the clearest of examples, we notice that the divider board has a precut opening like the 65 and 66 examples that allows a sheet metal tab in the prepunched hole to hold the panel in place. Maybe San Jose had to go back to the 66 supplier for a while due to supply issues.




On the jute style there is spray adhesive that is sprayed along the front edge of the rear package tray reinforcement and down each corner for about 6-8" to hold it in place since it lacks rigidity of the press paper board



Also considering separating this trunk divider off on its own thread since its kind of taken over the thread and we've ignored the underlayment request because of that
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Re: Coupe Interior to trunk Divider - 67 San Jose
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2020, 08:57:06 PM »
It is good to know that there was another possibility so I do not mistakenly deduct for it if seen.

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Re: Coupe Interior to trunk Divider - 67 San Jose
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2020, 11:03:07 PM »
Jeff that is interesting, I have never seen a original car with any thing but the jute pad. The original jute pad was a dark grey material. It is very hard to find one intact as it is favorite mouse nest material. The reproduction material is not close to the original. At the very least has to be dyed or painted. I know the press board panels were used on the 65-66 cars.

Died or painted? I did order a light gray jute from NPD but what would work best to darken then fabric
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Re: Coupe Interior to trunk Divider - 67 San Jose
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2020, 01:24:58 AM »
Died or painted? I did order a light gray jute from NPD but what would work best to darken then fabric
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I used a flat black paint but did not paint it solid so it looked more like felt.

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Re: Coupe Interior to trunk Divider - 67 San Jose
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2020, 05:23:33 AM »
I used a flat black paint but did not paint it solid so it looked more like felt.
Ok, thanks
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