Topic: Rear tie downs????

[KCodeK]

I don't know it this was a good find or not, anyway I have acquired a complete set of rear tie downs including the original bolts for a 65.

My question is, when were they put on and how would they look as far as paint before they were removed at the dealer?  I want to put them in a box to go with the car.

Thanks

[KCodeK]

Come now, with that many views, someone must know something!!!

[Bob Gaines]

Come now, with that many views, someone must know something!!!

They were put on sometime after the car was painted but before the exhaust was installed IMHO. The San Jose ones appear to be dipped in thin black paint.  Since they were supposed to be taken off at the dealer and sent back for re use, I guess it would depend how many times they were reused. If they got reused they could look pretty banged up. If it was the first go around they could look mint. I have a feeling only a small percentage were sent back for re use. I hope this helps. Bob

[J_Speegle]

My question is, when were they put on and how would they look as far as paint before they were removed at the dealer? 

They would not be painted if your car came from Dearborn or NJ. In any case you would expect witness groves and scratches from the bolts and removing them

[CharlesTurner]

I've found black on Dearborn cars also...

[C5ZZKGT]

So Dearborn units could have been either natural (phosphate & Oil) or Black.....what sheen of Black? what about the bolts?
Charles & Jeff, Do you prefer to see these hold downs on a car finished properly or prefer not to see them at all (on a concours car)?? (due to the fact that they were "supoesedly removed for re-use"

[CharlesTurner]

I don't mind seeing them on a show cars.  A lot of the cars I've had never had the tie downs removed.

The ones I've seen black were just dipped in semi-gloss black, usually a thin mixture.

[J_Speegle]

I'm with Charles - I know of no judge that has a problem with them on the car at a show. Having them off and on display would be out of the norm at a show is that would not be the way that the car would have been delivered (removed but still with the car) to the first buyer

[Bob Gaines]

So Dearborn units could have been either natural (phosphate & Oil) or Black.....what sheen of Black? what about the bolts?
Charles & Jeff, Do you prefer to see these hold downs on a car finished properly or prefer not to see them at all (on a concours car)?? (due to the fact that they were "supoesedly removed for re-use"

I agree that they could ether be on or off. We know from a significant amount of observations that many were left on even though the sticker in the license plate area put on at the factory direct them to be taken off. The bare steel tie downs  that I have seen were bare virgin steel finish and not the darker phosphate and oil. Another historical detail if leaving the tie downs off is that there should be some kind of evidence that the tie downs had been on the car like scuffed paint etc. It should look like something had been there bolted on and then taken off rather then a perfect frame rail IMHO. It doesn't have to be much IMHO. Bob   

[KCodeK]

OK, now we are cookin, that's what I wanted to know!

Thanks

[Jerry]

Hi guys

Second problem i´m dealing with are the dealer or factory installed tie down
brackets on the rear frame rails. On my 66 San Jose car they are bolted on
with two screws. On 65 the had 3 screws the third one was bolted in
on the under side of the frame rails.
Now my question.... Is this just a 65/66 difference or is there more
to know about??

THanks Jerry

[carlite65]

there are various factors affecting the tie down brackets. make the search feature here your friend. use the words 'tie down' and enjoy the results.

[Jerry]

Hi

Thanks but what i found was just where they discuss about the styles but
i have no clue who each style looks like. Ist there a picture where you can
see the bracket and for what car/year/exhaust it was? That would be best

Bye Jerry

[CharlesTurner]

The style that attaches with 2 bolts are usually the short ones that are referred to as single exhaust tie downs.  The other, longer, style is usually found on dual exhaust cars.

[Jerry]

One man one word! Thanks!
Now one question to the exhaust system.
Could all engine codes could be ordered with dual exhaust?