Topic: 1968 San Jose GT 390 Wiper Motor & Hardware

[67gta289]

Great thanks. Did you reuse your your grommets or replace them?

Reused.  I (and others) might have extras

[bullitt68]

Reused.  I (and others) might have extras

OK thanks John let me know. Mine are ok, but being a desert car they are dried out and cracked. My concern is when I remove them to paint the bracket, as I am sure that they will get damaged. I would prefer a new set if I can find some. Appreciate it

[67gta289]

Aha, here is where the rusty and damp cars come in handy...

[jwc66k]

But I still suggest that you look at the assembly manual. 

Another source (that I did not check) is Jim's fastener spreadsheet.
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Nope. Not there. I added all the hardware from the Assembly Manuals first, and followed up on listing hardware from the MPC as it was "discovered". In this case, I will find what I can from the MPC on wiper motors, list it in the spreadsheets, and report here on what I find that is pertinent to the topic. So far, there is no grommet information in the 60-68 MPC for Mustangs. To make a determination for a usable grommet, the following information (which I don't have, no 68 Mustangs in my garage) is needed: the mounting screw diameter; the hole in the bracket diameter; bracket thickness; outside diameter of an existing grommet, probably the grommet's "shadow" on the bracket is the best reference if you don't have a useable one. If you don't have a set of calipers, I suggest you invest in a set. Don't bother with the battery powered types, the batteries wear out and you got nothing. Dial calipers from e-bay is your best source, usually under $30.
Jim

[bullitt68]

Aha, here is where the rusty and damp cars come in handy...

Yeas agreed. Since my car was a desert car everything that was rubber or plastic dried out. On a positive note anything that was metal was perfectly preserve and looked like new for the most part. I guess its a pretty good trade off lol!

[bullitt68]

Another source (that I did not check) is Jim's fastener spreadsheet.

Nope. Not there. I added all the hardware from the Assembly Manuals first, and followed up on listing hardware from the MPC as it was "discovered". In this case, I will find what I can from the MPC on wiper motors, list it in the spreadsheets, and report here on what I find that is pertinent to the topic. So far, there is no grommet information in the 60-68 MPC for Mustangs. To make a determination for a usable grommet, the following information (which I don't have, no 68 Mustangs in my garage) is needed: the mounting screw diameter; the hole in the bracket diameter; bracket thickness; outside diameter of an existing grommet, probably the grommet's "shadow" on the bracket is the best reference if you don't have a useable one. If you don't have a set of calipers, I suggest you invest in a set. Don't bother with the battery powered types, the batteries wear out and you got nothing. Dial calipers from e-bay is your best source, usually under $30.
Jim

Great thanks Jim. Will do

[jwc66k]

I went thru the 60-68 Ford Car Parts (aka, MPC) and the 75 edition of Ford Car Parts (aka, MPC) and neither had grommet information. The 60-68 Illustration section (Section 175) was the only source of hardware information. The 75 edition was very deficient on 64-68 wipers. The best I could determine is that the 64-66 grommets MAY be the same as 67/68. Also the 62-65 Falcon "appears" to use grommets. That gives a larger range of cars to look. No other Ford uses that type of wiper installation. 
Jim

[bullitt68]

I went thru the 60-68 Ford Car Parts (aka, MPC) and the 75 edition of Ford Car Parts (aka, MPC) and neither had grommet information. The 60-68 Illustration section (Section 175) was the only source of hardware information. The 75 edition was very deficient on 64-68 wipers. The best I could determine is that the 64-66 grommets MAY be the same as 67/68. Also the 62-65 Falcon "appears" to use grommets. That gives a larger range of cars to look. No other Ford uses that type of wiper installation. 
Jim

Thanks Jim

[67gta289]

Here is what I have determined thus far, referring to the attached document.  Aside from the bolt, it looks to me like everything is special.  Also I'm not surprised to not see the information in the MPC, there is no reason for these to be serviced.  If the mechanic was to the point where he had the wiper motor assembly out of the car, it would make no sense to put an old one back in, just grab a new one off the shelf.

[bullitt68]

Here is what I have determined thus far, referring to the attached document.  Aside from the bolt, it looks to me like everything is special.  Also I'm not surprised to not see the information in the MPC, there is no reason for these to be serviced.  If the mechanic was to the point where he had the wiper motor assembly out of the car, it would make no sense to put an old one back in, just grab a new one off the shelf.

Thanks John that is great information. Very thorough and highly documented. Did you do that for everything on your car?

[bullitt68]

AMK makes this part listed as Ford Wiper Motor grommets. Obviously they are not correct, but they could be trimmed. Unfortunately they dont list dimensions. Is anyone familiar with this part.

This may also be an option

[midlife]

I wonder if the wiper motor was supplied by an outside vendor, which is why so many of the fasteners appear not to be Ford parts.

[jwc66k]

The "replaces Ford 17562" looked familiar, the 17xxx base number series of Ford part numbers includes windshield wiper parts. The number does not have any entries in the 60-68 MPC, but it is possible. The AMK grommet, E6AE-17C431, does have listing for full side Fords, T-Birds and 66 on Fairlanes and Falcons under base number "17C431". The style did appear in one of the 60-68 MPC pages for full Size Ford - not Mustang.
If a measurement of the hole in the mounting bracket could be made, it might "enhance" the possibility that the grommet in the second picture (replaces 17562) might work. The 75 edition MPC was no help on either of those numbers.
Jim

[bullitt68]

The "replaces Ford 17562" looked familiar, the 17xxx base number series of Ford part numbers includes windshield wiper parts. The number does not have any entries in the 60-68 MPC, but it is possible. The AMK grommet, E6AE-17C431, does have listing for full side Fords, T-Birds and 66 on Fairlanes and Falcons under base number "17C431". The style did appear in one of the 60-68 MPC pages for full Size Ford - not Mustang.
If a measurement of the hole in the mounting bracket could be made, it might "enhance" the possibility that the grommet in the second picture (replaces 17562) might work. The 75 edition MPC was no help on either of those numbers.
Jim

Thanks Jim. I have ordered both grommets and will update once I receive and see which is a better choice and if either will work

[jwc66k]

The E6AE-17C431 grommet is not Mustang.
Jim