Topic: 1968 San Jose GT 390 Fastback Clutch & Brake Pedal Assembly

[bullitt68]

Just curious about a few things on my Clutch & Brake Pedal Assembly.

Photo 1: Looking to confirm the following
The clutch return spring has white paint on it, but is worn off and 50 years old. Just curious if anyone has a photo of how it should be painted

Photo 2&3: The column support bracket has a date code of March which is constant with my car. Is there a prefered vendor who makes these stamp with correct font, size & color

Photo 4: I am not sure what this label says on the main bracket or what was the purpose of it. Has anyone else found one on their car or reproached it by chance

Photo 5,6,7,8: I am not familiar with the correct parts number of the clutch & brake rubber pedal pads. Would these be the correct part numbers? They do appear to be original. Notice how little wear there is

Photo 9&10: I am assuming that all of this assembly is original and correct but would like to confirm so that I can restore it correctly. Thew brake pedal appears to have only partially painted, but the clutch pedal looks fully painted. Just curious of other observations and examples. just confirming how the date decodes. Year 8, Month B (Feb), Day 28

Thanks in advance

[Bob Gaines]

Just curious about a few things on my Clutch & Brake Pedal Assembly.

Photo 1: Looking to confirm the following
The clutch return spring has white paint on it, but is worn off and 50 years old. Just curious if anyone has a photo of how it should be painted

Photo 2&3: The column support bracket has a date code of March which is constant with my car. Is there a prefered vendor who makes these stamp with correct font, size & color

Photo 4: I am not sure what this label says on the main bracket or what was the purpose of it. Has anyone else found one on their car or reproached it by chance

Photo 5,6,7,8: I am not familiar with the correct parts number of the clutch & brake rubber pedal pads. Would these be the correct part numbers? They do appear to be original. Notice how little wear there is

Photo 9&10: I am assuming that all of this assembly is original and correct but would like to confirm so that I can restore it correctly. Thew brake pedal appears to have only partially painted, but the clutch pedal looks fully painted. Just curious of other observations and examples. just confirming how the date decodes. Year 8, Month B (Feb), Day 28

Thanks in advance

The big block return spring was the one that was painted white in 67/68. The pedal arms are typically only partially painted. one that is completely painted is not typical.   

[bullitt68]

The big block return spring was the one that was painted white in 67/68. The pedal arms are typically only partially painted. one that is completely painted is not typical.

Great thanks Bob appreciate it

[RoyceP]

The under dash support piece is usually bare steel with some inspector marks. I bet yours has been replaced including the pedal assemblies with service replacement parts. As Bob says the pedals are normally only lower half painted and the upper parts not at all.

[67gtasanjose]

The under dash support piece is usually bare steel with some inspector marks. I bet yours has been replaced including the pedal assemblies with service replacement parts. As Bob says the pedals are normally only lower half painted and the upper parts not at all.

+2 on all comments, plus there is remnants of a Service Part decal.

FWI, hunt for a factory replacement bracket from an Auto Trans donor, same part with 99.999% of the time ZERO wear from clutch activity.

[bullitt68]

The under dash support piece is usually bare steel with some inspector marks. I bet yours has been replaced including the pedal assemblies with service replacement parts. As Bob says the pedals are normally only lower half painted and the upper parts not at all.

Great thanks Royce. That is excellent information. I wonder why it was replaced. Seems like an odd assembly to replace. Did you see the part number on the brake pedal. I didn't notice the part number on the clutch pedal but I will check. What about the part numbers on the pedal pads

[bullitt68]

+2 on all comments, plus there is remnants of a Service Part decal.

FWI, hunt for a factory replacement bracket from an Auto Trans donor, same part with 99.999% of the time ZERO wear from clutch activity.

Thanks. That is a great idea. I will add that to my list of parts I need

[krelboyne]

I wonder why it was replaced. Seems like an odd assembly to replace. Did you see the part number on the brake pedal. I didn't notice the part number on the clutch pedal but I will check. What about the part numbers on the pedal pads

Pedal pad numbers are correct, and clutch and manual brake pad used through 1970  at least.

Disc pedal hanger was likely replaced because the clutch shaft bushing was all wallered out. A used pedal hanger from an automatic car will have mint bushings, you would ideally want a disc brake pedal hanger.

Looks like a date stamped on the brake pedal. Starting in 1969 the dates were stamped in the foot portion and is covered by the rubber pad and not seen.

[bullitt68]

Pedal pad numbers are correct, and clutch and manual brake pad used through 1970  at least.

Disc pedal hanger was likely replaced because the clutch shaft bushing was all wallered out. A used pedal hanger from an automatic car will have mint bushings, you would ideally want a disc brake pedal hanger.

Looks like a date stamped on the brake pedal. Starting in 1969 the dates were stamped in the foot portion and is covered by the rubber pad and not seen.

Thanks Scott FYI the clutch shaft bushing has been modified at some point. I will get a photo of it

[bullitt68]

Pedal pad numbers are correct, and clutch and manual brake pad used through 1970  at least.

Disc pedal hanger was likely replaced because the clutch shaft bushing was all wallered out. A used pedal hanger from an automatic car will have mint bushings, you would ideally want a disc brake pedal hanger.

Looks like a date stamped on the brake pedal. Starting in 1969 the dates were stamped in the foot portion and is covered by the rubber pad and not seen.

Yes the brake pedal has a FoMoCo and date stamp, but I could not find one on the clutch pedal and pedal is also fully painted.

There is a depression on the foot portion from the rubber pad.

Note the sloppy weld on the clutch shaft bushing. Nothing like the factory bushing

[67gtasanjose]

Looking at those welds...Chances are, the clutch pedal portion of the bracket has been overhauled yet another time after being replaced previously. Replace it.

The clutch pedal (not referring to the pads) may have been replaced but the brake pedal looks to be original.

As already mentioned (twice), source an auto trans assemblyline bracket (disc brake version with holes up high for the mounting of the disc brake pedal), strip the paint off your clutch and brake pedals, strip any surface rust from all bare metal surfaces, repaint any painted parts (as factory did) and reassemble.

Your situation is nothing surprising at all, a very common issue with a very easy, somewhat inexpensive solution available, using your manual trans parts on another bracket.

Be sure to inspect the hole where the clutch rod attaches to the clutch pedal and restore if needed.

[RoyceP]

WCCC will sell you a good used one from an automatic equipped car. That means no wear to you. It will be surface rusted when you get it. It will look like this after a trip through an Evapo - Rust bath.

[bullitt68]

Looking at those welds...Chances are, the clutch pedal portion of the bracket has been overhauled yet another time after being replaced previously. Replace it.

The clutch pedal (not referring to the pads) may have been replaced but the brake pedal looks to be original.

As already mentioned (twice), source an auto trans assemblyline bracket (disc brake version with holes up high for the mounting of the disc brake pedal), strip the paint off your clutch and brake pedals, strip any surface rust from all bare metal surfaces, repaint any painted parts (as factory did) and reassemble.

Your situation is nothing surprising at all, a very common issue with a very easy, somewhat inexpensive solution available, using your manual trans parts on another bracket.

Be sure to inspect the hole where the clutch rod attaches to the clutch pedal and restore if needed.

Thanks that is great information

[bullitt68]

WCCC will sell you a good used one from an automatic equipped car. That means no wear to you. It will be surface rusted when you get it. It will look like this after a trip through an Evapo - Rust bath.

Thanks Royce will do

[bullitt68]

WCCC will sell you a good used one from an automatic equipped car. That means no wear to you. It will be surface rusted when you get it. It will look like this after a trip through an Evapo - Rust bath.

Thanks for the info Royce. I was fortunate that Marty read the post and offered up an automatic pedal support/hanger. Just curious as the one he sent me has nut seats on it. Which is correct.

Also not that your has bolts in the mounting location where both the one from my car and the one from Marty have nuts. I will clean the new one up and see how it looks. Thanks for the reference on the cable clip and the cable protector

Also meant to ask about the paint line on the pedal. Should it be a crisp line or a fade?