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Factory Decal Locations - 1970 Mach 1 (Metuchen plant)
« on: November 25, 2019, 02:41:55 PM »
I ordered few decals from deadnutson.com and just wanted to find out if there is already a batch of pictures available for the various locations where stickers were placed. The website shows a 1969 fastback with a picture, but not the 1970. I would assume it's probably the same location, but that's just an assumption. Also, I plan to order some more so I wanted to check and see if there were pictures available. Thanks!

« Last Edit: November 26, 2019, 06:03:01 PM by J_Speegle »
1970 Mustang Mach 1, Grabber Blue
351C 4V M-code, Non A/C
Built at Metuchen
Build Date: December 19, 1969
Dealer: 21A461 Whaley-Dailey Ford Sales, Conyers, GA

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Re: Factory Decal Locations - 1970 Mach 1 (Metuchen plant)
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2019, 04:37:01 PM »
Since you posted a picture of the Vehicle Safety Act sticker I started there. Apparently that one was not used on Mustangs in 1970. Looked through about 500 examples and could not find evidence of one being applied not one in place on unrestored cars. Checked and this seems to apply to all plants thought the full year.

Do you need or want to see all the other stickers? If so, for what engine application and what part of the production year. Do to rusting issues NJ cars are typically harder to find but we'll help where we can. There is one example posted in the unrestored picture section of the site but that picture thread does not include any pictures of the decals and stickers :(

« Last Edit: November 26, 2019, 06:03:09 PM by J_Speegle »
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Re: Factory Decal Locations - 1970 Mach 1 (Metuchen plant)
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2019, 10:05:11 PM »
Thanks Jeff, the sticker I was focusing on in the picture was actually the spare tire/jack stowage sticker, but it was for 1969. Good to know on the vehicle safety act sticker. As far as other stickers, I was planning ordering other stickers as well, and I've seen sites where they sell a whole set of stickers, but there are not pictures to show where all of them go.

In my case, it is for a 1970 Mach 1 with 351 Cleveland 4V. My car was built on 12/19/69 (50th birthday coming up!). Any pics of the sticker locations are appreciated. My intent is to put as many stickers back on the car in the right places as possible. I'm not necessarily concerned about ones that were temporary - just the main ones like trunk, air cleaner, door jams, etc.

thanks!
« Last Edit: November 26, 2019, 06:03:17 PM by J_Speegle »
1970 Mustang Mach 1, Grabber Blue
351C 4V M-code, Non A/C
Built at Metuchen
Build Date: December 19, 1969
Dealer: 21A461 Whaley-Dailey Ford Sales, Conyers, GA

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Re: Factory Decal Locations - 1970 Mach 1 (Metuchen plant)
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2019, 10:30:51 PM »
First as a general comment don't by the inexpensive "kits" as they normally include non- original decals that don't apply to your car and application. Instead we suggest buyign individual decals of higher quality or at least the best currently available.

Will put together a list as I have in the past for other applications and post to try and help out
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A few additional questions

AC?

Standard full size spare tire?

Shaker?

Not a Calif delivered car?

................ I'm not necessarily concerned about ones that were temporary - just the main ones like trunk, air cleaner, door jams, etc.

Not sure which you would consider temporary so will provide what I have and you can figure that out. Also for a restoration you would want to return all stickers that would be there after dealer prep. Maybe what your referring to are the ones that would be removed then
« Last Edit: November 26, 2019, 06:03:23 PM by J_Speegle »
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Re: Factory Decal Locations - 1970 Mach 1 (Metuchen plant)
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2019, 11:57:58 PM »
Okay thanks for the tip on the stickers. So far, the only ones I have are the one from Marti for the driver's door, and two from deadnutson.com - spare tire and Autolite air cleaner sticker.

Full disclosure - my car doesn't have the original transmission and didn't when I obtained the car. That being said, I'm still trying to get it as close to possible as original wherever I can. Most of the car is original with a few exceptions, and is really coming along well overall. I don't expect to win any prizes with the wrong transmission, but I do enjoy preserving some history and I'm at the point now where the car looks very good and drives well, so I can start paying more attention to details like stickers.

For your questions:

No A/C
not sure what it came with, but currently has a full size spare, so the sticker I ordered was for a full size spare. There is no mention of the spare on the window sticker or Marti report.
No Shaker
Not a California delivered car. Was originally sold at a dealer in Georgia

Thanks!
« Last Edit: November 26, 2019, 06:03:31 PM by J_Speegle »
1970 Mustang Mach 1, Grabber Blue
351C 4V M-code, Non A/C
Built at Metuchen
Build Date: December 19, 1969
Dealer: 21A461 Whaley-Dailey Ford Sales, Conyers, GA

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Re: Factory Decal Locations - 1970 Mach 1 (Metuchen plant)
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2019, 06:02:26 PM »
Lets see if this will help.

First when your looking at other examples out there in magazines, web or where ever

- No CAUTION FAN decal on shroud
- No FRONT decal on air cleaner
- No Dearborn style round corner inspection stickers in the engine compartment, interior or trunk

Think those are the three most commonly seen ones. There are others that can be found in kits where the owner will just apply them just about anywhere figuring that either they paid for them and they are going to use them or the sellers know what is correct and would not include something that didn't belong on their car.  Have a couple of examples but I hesitate showing incorrect examples in these situations.


ENGINE COMPARTMENT 

Battery inspection sticker. Originally paper based with no clear cover/top layer so they didn't last long. Your looking for the black printed version with the sharp corners and intersecting lines. Don't know of anyone supplying a complete good reproduction filled out correctly for a NJ 70 car.  Example though the information is not legible




Service specifications- What appears to be a form of Mylar over a paper based sticker. Two examples of their general location for cars during your production period. Later in the year the location appears to change




Air Cleaner Cubic Inch - Ignore the other decal. Just a Calif post production smog sticker. Paper with clear top layer over paper sticker




Air Filter Service Replacement - Paper with clear top layer over paper sticker. Original and good reproduction will include the part number for the filter on the bottom line of the decal




Engine ID & Timing/Emission - Engine ID (green arrow) Timing/Emission (gold arrow) Both paper with clear top layer over paper sticker. Engine id stickers would have been on a roll and torn at the ends similar to the torn/cut edges used on a coarse toothed packaging tape dispenser






INTERIOR

Tire Pressure - What appears to be a form of Mylar over a paper based sticker.  Not sure what version (haven't studied these closely ) of the sticker would be correct for your application.





TRUNK

Jack Instructions - Paper with no clear top layer applied to the lower passenger corner of the trunk lid typically on sportroof/Mach I  applications. On cars equipped with space saver tires an additional decal/sticker would have been applied typically to the driver side of this decal




Rear Side Marker Light Retainers - One for each side LH and RH



UNDERCARRIAGE

Rearend - Paper (no clear layer) rear axle ID tag. ID number will match the metal tag at third member and on your buildsheet




EXTERIOR

Shipping Tie Down - Plain paper with no clear coat/layer



Hope this helps
« Last Edit: November 26, 2019, 06:05:11 PM by J_Speegle »
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Re: Factory Decal Locations - 1970 Mach 1 (Metuchen plant)
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2019, 07:35:50 PM »
Wow, thanks Jeff! I'll reference these as I locate/order the stickers. In the first part of your post, you said:

No CAUTION FAN decal on shroud
- No FRONT decal on air cleaner
- No Dearborn style round corner inspection stickers in the engine compartment, interior or trunk

To make sure I'm clear, are you saying that my car did NOT have these stickers? Or are you just saying that these stickers are missing in a lot of pictures online?

Thanks again.
1970 Mustang Mach 1, Grabber Blue
351C 4V M-code, Non A/C
Built at Metuchen
Build Date: December 19, 1969
Dealer: 21A461 Whaley-Dailey Ford Sales, Conyers, GA

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Re: Factory Decal Locations - 1970 Mach 1 (Metuchen plant)
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2019, 07:52:42 PM »
Wow, thanks Jeff! I'll reference these as I locate/order the stickers. In the first part of your post, you said:

- No CAUTION FAN decal on shroud
- No FRONT decal on air cleaner
- No Dearborn style round corner inspection stickers in the engine compartment, interior or trunk

To make sure I'm clear, are you saying that my car did NOT have these stickers? Or are you just saying that these stickers are missing in a lot of pictures online?

Sorry for not being clear and for asking for clarification. Your car would not have any of the three listed  above originally.


You will find examples of all three in many "restored" examples just didn't want you to follow and copy those. 

As an additional note (if you can find one) the tire pressure sticker was possibly a D0ZA-H version
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Re: Factory Decal Locations - 1970 Mach 1 (Metuchen plant)
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2019, 09:57:36 AM »
Thanks Jeff, that's both a little surprising and also disappointing about those stickers, especially since my car has both the fan shroud and top sticker on the air cleaner (that I applied about three years ago when I first bought the car). Apparently I should have done more homework initially, but I'm learning as I go along. I guess now I have to consider trying to remove them if I want it to be correct.

It's odd that those stickers were not there. I guess since the car was built less than a week before Christmas, the workers at the Metuchen plant got a little lazy or the "sticker guy" took an early Christmas vacation :-)
1970 Mustang Mach 1, Grabber Blue
351C 4V M-code, Non A/C
Built at Metuchen
Build Date: December 19, 1969
Dealer: 21A461 Whaley-Dailey Ford Sales, Conyers, GA

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Re: Factory Decal Locations - 1970 Mach 1 (Metuchen plant)
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2019, 10:02:35 AM »
not odd at all. they simply were not used.
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Re: Factory Decal Locations - 1970 Mach 1 (Metuchen plant)
« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2019, 02:19:57 PM »
As mentioned its not that those stickers were applied to some 69 NJ cars its that they are not correct for your application - in this case a 69 NJ built car. For example (covered before in other threads) the CAUTION FAN sticker was an item that was sent out to all Ford vehicle owners years after 1969 likely as a result of concern and possibly legal ones also. Tens of thousands or more were sent to all the dealerships tell them to put on on every used, new and any car coming through for service. Because of this many very nice original cars received on and for a time were thought to be original. With time we found that they were not but decal makers still make them, owners still see pictures of cars in magazines and on the internet with them and assume they need them also.

Just one of many examples were a detail can take on a life of its own
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Re: Factory Decal Locations - 1970 Mach 1 (Metuchen plant)
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2019, 12:28:09 PM »
Thanks Jeff. Just to make sure I have this straight:

"the CAUTION FAN sticker was an item that was sent out to all Ford vehicle owners years after 1969 likely as a result of concern and possibly legal ones also."

Build date: 12/19/69
Sold date: 02/10/70


Based on these dates, the stickers were mailed out to owners after February, 1970?

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1970 Mustang Mach 1, Grabber Blue
351C 4V M-code, Non A/C
Built at Metuchen
Build Date: December 19, 1969
Dealer: 21A461 Whaley-Dailey Ford Sales, Conyers, GA

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Re: Factory Decal Locations - 1970 Mach 1 (Metuchen plant)
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2019, 02:48:49 PM »
Thanks Jeff. Just to make sure I have this straight:

"the CAUTION FAN sticker was an item that was sent out to all Ford vehicle owners years after 1969 likely as a result of concern and possibly legal ones also."

Build date: 12/19/69
Sold date: 02/10/70


Based on these dates, the stickers were mailed out to owners after February, 1970?

If I recall correctly the campaign I'm referring to was in 1972 so known/registered owners would have received them sometime that year. For your car two years after it rolled out of the dealership.

Prior to that the only Mustangs that used that sticker was the Boss 429 in 69-70. Likely because they didn't use a shroud bit a small metal finger guard that only "covered" a small area at the top of the radiator
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Re: Factory Decal Locations - 1970 Mach 1 (Metuchen plant)
« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2020, 02:26:28 PM »
Lets see if this will help.

First when your looking at other examples out there in magazines, web or where ever

- No CAUTION FAN decal on shroud
- No FRONT decal on air cleaner
- No Dearborn style round corner inspection stickers in the engine compartment, interior or trunk

Think those are the three most commonly seen ones. There are others that can be found in kits where the owner will just apply them just about anywhere figuring that either they paid for them and they are going to use them or the sellers know what is correct and would not include something that didn't belong on their car.  Have a couple of examples but I hesitate showing incorrect examples in these situations.


ENGINE COMPARTMENT 

Battery inspection sticker. Originally paper based with no clear cover/top layer so they didn't last long. Your looking for the black printed version with the sharp corners and intersecting lines. Don't know of anyone supplying a complete good reproduction filled out correctly for a NJ 70 car.  Example though the information is not legible




Service specifications- What appears to be a form of Mylar over a paper based sticker. Two examples of their general location for cars during your production period. Later in the year the location appears to change




Air Cleaner Cubic Inch - Ignore the other decal. Just a Calif post production smog sticker. Paper with clear top layer over paper sticker




Air Filter Service Replacement - Paper with clear top layer over paper sticker. Original and good reproduction will include the part number for the filter on the bottom line of the decal




Engine ID & Timing/Emission - Engine ID (green arrow) Timing/Emission (gold arrow) Both paper with clear top layer over paper sticker. Engine id stickers would have been on a roll and torn at the ends similar to the torn/cut edges used on a coarse toothed packaging tape dispenser






INTERIOR

Tire Pressure - What appears to be a form of Mylar over a paper based sticker.  Not sure what version (haven't studied these closely ) of the sticker would be correct for your application.





TRUNK

Jack Instructions - Paper with no clear top layer applied to the lower passenger corner of the trunk lid typically on sportroof/Mach I  applications. On cars equipped with space saver tires an additional decal/sticker would have been applied typically to the driver side of this decal




Rear Side Marker Light Retainers - One for each side LH and RH



UNDERCARRIAGE

Rearend - Paper (no clear layer) rear axle ID tag. ID number will match the metal tag at third member and on your buildsheet




EXTERIOR

Shipping Tie Down - Plain paper with no clear coat/layer



Hope this helps

Hi Jeff, I'm just getting around to installing some of these decals and just had a quick question. In the two-part picture for the service specifications, where is the approximate location shown in the top part of the picture? It's hard to tell because I only see part of the one hose as a reference. Thanks!
1970 Mustang Mach 1, Grabber Blue
351C 4V M-code, Non A/C
Built at Metuchen
Build Date: December 19, 1969
Dealer: 21A461 Whaley-Dailey Ford Sales, Conyers, GA

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Re: Factory Decal Locations - 1970 Mach 1 (Metuchen plant)
« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2020, 04:30:27 PM »
The Xed out rectangular decal on the air cleaner - two of my DB cars have these! Wonder if dealers applied them like the Caution Fan decal.
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