Author Topic: 1968 San Jose GT 390 Fastback Rear Seat Trap Door  (Read 1537 times)

Offline bullitt68

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1968 San Jose GT 390 Fastback Rear Seat Trap Door
« on: September 27, 2019, 04:03:30 AM »
Just curious of these holes were drilled at the factory or after the fact. I am not sure if this is original paint or not and the holes look pretty hack, so I suspect that they were added after the fact. I would just like to confirm as I will be media blasting the door and will weld them up t=if they don't belong there. I am trying to figure out why the would have beed drilled in the first place.

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Mike
1968 Mustang Fastback GT 390 Raven Black, 4 speed
8R02S162374, San Jose, June 5, 1968

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Re: 1968 San Jose GT 390 Fastback Rear Seat Trap Door
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2019, 04:41:33 AM »
Did your trim strip have matching holes through them also?
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Re: 1968 San Jose GT 390 Fastback Rear Seat Trap Door
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2019, 12:15:37 PM »
Did your trim strip have matching holes through them also?

Probably I will check my photo archives. I figured they were drilled after the fact however and should not be there. Could they have drilled it at the factory like that?
Mike
1968 Mustang Fastback GT 390 Raven Black, 4 speed
8R02S162374, San Jose, June 5, 1968

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Re: 1968 San Jose GT 390 Fastback Rear Seat Trap Door
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2019, 02:16:42 PM »
Don't believe they are original Just looking for confirmation based on other evidence since we can't be there in person. Have seen some owners attach the rear door (would not open) in this manner when they added a fold down and trap door to a non-fold down car and didn't get the hinges (left on other car) or they tried to eliminate squeaks and rattles
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Re: 1968 San Jose GT 390 Fastback Rear Seat Trap Door
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2019, 03:26:46 PM »
Don't believe they are original Just looking for confirmation based on other evidence since we can't be there in person. Have seen some owners attach the rear door (would not open) in this manner when they added a fold down and trap door to a non-fold down car and didn't get the hinges (left on other car) or they tried to eliminate squeaks and rattles

From what I recall and can confirm when I review the photos, I believe that the trim was riveted through those holes.
Mike
1968 Mustang Fastback GT 390 Raven Black, 4 speed
8R02S162374, San Jose, June 5, 1968

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Re: 1968 San Jose GT 390 Fastback Rear Seat Trap Door
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2019, 03:39:17 PM »
Don't believe they are original Just looking for confirmation based on other evidence since we can't be there in person. Have seen some owners attach the rear door (would not open) in this manner when they added a fold down and trap door to a non-fold down car and didn't get the hinges (left on other car) or they tried to eliminate squeaks and rattles

Hi Jeff I think this photo shows the trim attached to the trap door or am I mistaken and the trim is attached to the upper panel. I thought I had taken better photos, but perhaps not. Now I am not sure what the holes were for. From what I recall on my car some of the trim was attached with what looked like factory screws and some were attached with rivets. Not sure what would be factory at this point assuming that someone has done some form of a restoration on the car and now surer what was changed or left alone.
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Mike
1968 Mustang Fastback GT 390 Raven Black, 4 speed
8R02S162374, San Jose, June 5, 1968

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Re: 1968 San Jose GT 390 Fastback Rear Seat Trap Door
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2019, 05:33:15 PM »
Well typically you would have the prepunched and designed holes for the 67 trim clips (larger holes) then the holes for the 68 upper edge trim that would have been drilled/formed.

Don't have a close up of a 68 fold down trap door edge to compare. Would suggest you find the trim strip and figure out which holes you need for your particular trim strip and go from there.
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Re: 1968 San Jose GT 390 Fastback Rear Seat Trap Door
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2019, 05:59:32 PM »
Not sure about the trap door, but your seat release levers are upside down. They should point upward.  ;)

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Re: 1968 San Jose GT 390 Fastback Rear Seat Trap Door
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2019, 12:45:22 AM »
Well typically you would have the prepunched and designed holes for the 67 trim clips (larger holes) then the holes for the 68 upper edge trim that would have been drilled/formed.

Don't have a close up of a 68 fold down trap door edge to compare. Would suggest you find the trim strip and figure out which holes you need for your particular trim strip and go from there.

Thanks Jeff will do.
Mike
1968 Mustang Fastback GT 390 Raven Black, 4 speed
8R02S162374, San Jose, June 5, 1968

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Re: 1968 San Jose GT 390 Fastback Rear Seat Trap Door
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2019, 12:46:53 AM »
Not sure about the trap door, but your seat release levers are upside down. They should point upward.  ;)

Thanks for that. There seemed to be a bunch of things that were done incorrectly when they did the restoration on this car, which is another reason I am double checking everything and not assuming that everything is correct on this car.
Mike
1968 Mustang Fastback GT 390 Raven Black, 4 speed
8R02S162374, San Jose, June 5, 1968

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Re: 1968 San Jose GT 390 Fastback Rear Seat Trap Door
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2019, 12:48:18 AM »
Not sure about the trap door, but your seat release levers are upside down. They should point upward.  ;)

Are you referring to the front seats?
Mike
1968 Mustang Fastback GT 390 Raven Black, 4 speed
8R02S162374, San Jose, June 5, 1968

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Re: 1968 San Jose GT 390 Fastback Rear Seat Trap Door
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2019, 04:20:51 AM »
Are you referring to the front seats?

Yes he is

Number of picture of that detail and others in the threads titled As well as others posted on the site

Late 68 San Jose C Code Coupe - Unrestored Picture Thread
    
Jan? 68 San Jose C code bench seat coupe - Unrestored Picture Thread
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Re: 1968 San Jose GT 390 Fastback Rear Seat Trap Door
« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2019, 09:42:31 AM »
If I were to guess why the extra holes were there I would say they could not find the correct mounting clips and used screws to hold the trim piece. If you find the trim strip has holes that would confirm it.

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Re: 1968 San Jose GT 390 Fastback Rear Seat Trap Door
« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2019, 11:29:21 AM »
I will did out my trim and confirm. Hopefully that will solve the mystery
Mike
1968 Mustang Fastback GT 390 Raven Black, 4 speed
8R02S162374, San Jose, June 5, 1968

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Re: 1968 San Jose GT 390 Fastback Rear Seat Trap Door
« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2019, 11:30:00 AM »
Yes he is

Number of picture of that detail and others in the threads titled As well as others posted on the site

Late 68 San Jose C Code Coupe - Unrestored Picture Thread
    
Jan? 68 San Jose C code bench seat coupe - Unrestored Picture Thread

Thanks for the reference Jeff I will take a look
Mike
1968 Mustang Fastback GT 390 Raven Black, 4 speed
8R02S162374, San Jose, June 5, 1968