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Re: 1968 San Jose GT 390 Fastback Blue Paint under Red Oxide Primer
« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2019, 01:40:21 PM »
More blue paint still a mystery... Why it is on some hardware is beyond me. It just seems so odd. It somehow got into some very deep and hidden crevices so effort was made to get there by someone at some point and then more paintbwas applied on top of it

Have you heard of Earl Sheib?
Drive it through the hose-down booth and squeegie off the glass & chrome...all for only $29.99!
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Re: 1968 San Jose GT 390 Fastback Blue Paint under Red Oxide Primer
« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2019, 01:46:40 PM »
Have you heard of Earl Sheib?
Drive it through the hose-down booth and squeegie off the glass & chrome...all for only $29.99!

Haha! You might be onto something there, but how does that explain the blue under the primer and seam sealer. Who would paint a black car like that Robins egg blue?
« Last Edit: September 28, 2019, 01:49:48 PM by bullitt68 »
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1968 Mustang Fastback GT 390 Raven Black, 4 speed
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Re: 1968 San Jose GT 390 Fastback Blue Paint under Red Oxide Primer
« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2019, 03:34:27 PM »
Have you heard of Earl Sheib?
Drive it through the hose-down booth and squeegie off the glass & chrome...all for only $29.99!

I think you are understating the price, at least in the mid 80's...



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Re: 1968 San Jose GT 390 Fastback Blue Paint under Red Oxide Primer
« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2019, 03:39:15 PM »
I think you are understating the price, at least in the mid 80's...



That is so awesome on one hand and so incredibly wrong on another. Perhaps my car got the treatment at some point. However there was no evidence of it on the any of the outer body panels as the car was stripped to bare metal when it was restored. Too bad they didn't go all the way and media blast the whole car. Now I am doing the work that should have been done in the first place.. Then I m going to take it to Earl Scwabb lol!
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1968 Mustang Fastback GT 390 Raven Black, 4 speed
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Re: 1968 San Jose GT 390 Fastback Blue Paint under Red Oxide Primer
« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2019, 06:02:37 PM »
My car actually had an Earl Sheib paint job according to the original owner.  They painted right over the white GT paint stripes!
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Re: 1968 San Jose GT 390 Fastback Blue Paint under Red Oxide Primer
« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2019, 07:20:23 PM »
In the "old days" places like Sheib, Macco and Miracle would typically assign a minimum wage kid 15-20 minutes to prep a car (basically try and clean off most of the bugs and run a scratch pad over as much of the surface as he could in that time) before they masked and shot a car.

We had a car painted way back then by one of these - paid extra for a better prep and primer. When the paint peeled we could see no primer underneath the top coat. We were kids so the salesman tried to give us the "clear primer" line   LOL  That didn't go over at all.
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Re: 1968 San Jose GT 390 Fastback Blue Paint under Red Oxide Primer
« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2019, 08:27:30 PM »
I think you are understating the price, at least in the mid 80's...


You are correct, to a degree but when he started out, it was much lower than THAT commercial (stated as 1986).
In the late 70's, we fixed several wrecks and sent them there for a quickie, we prepped them is all. If memory serves, we paid $59.99 for non-metalics and add $10 for their "better" paint.
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Re: 1968 San Jose GT 390 Fastback Blue Paint under Red Oxide Primer
« Reply #22 on: October 02, 2019, 12:51:54 PM »
You are correct, to a degree but when he started out, it was much lower than THAT commercial (stated as 1986).
In the late 70's, we fixed several wrecks and sent them there for a quickie, we prepped them is all. If memory serves, we paid $59.99 for non-metalics and add $10 for their "better" paint.

Wow! Crazy stuff! When I painted my first car back around 1979 I stopped it myself and drove it to my buddies Dad's shop and they sprayed it and I drive it home with lights, bumpers or door handles etc. I paid $400.00 back then and it was Imron Aircraft paint from what I recall. Car was a 1970 and was already rusting pretty bad in the rear wheel wells, North Eastern car. It is crazy how expensive the whole process is now a days. Mind blowing really when you think about it and I am doing as much of the work as I can. I cant even imagine how much it would cost to do my car to this level paying someone else to do all of the work. Clearly it would be much more than the car is worth!
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Re: 1968 San Jose GT 390 Fastback Blue Paint under Red Oxide Primer
« Reply #23 on: October 23, 2019, 02:03:40 AM »
So I just had the car media blasted and they blue color is still showing up all over the car and it under the sound deadener and undercoating. I guess it must be a sealer/primer and it appears to have been applied to all sheet metal. My painter says they he has another Mustang in the shop that has the same blue paint under it.

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1968 Mustang Fastback GT 390 Raven Black, 4 speed
8R02S162374, San Jose, June 5, 1968

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Re: 1968 San Jose GT 390 Fastback Blue Paint under Red Oxide Primer
« Reply #24 on: October 23, 2019, 06:21:11 PM »
So I just had the car media blasted and they blue color is still showing up all over the car and it under the sound deadener and undercoating. .........

Looks to me (in the first couple of pictures) that the blue is over the sound deadener since you can see the texture in the blue
If you were to chip off the black sound deadener I doubt there would be blue under those areas given what the pictures show.


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Re: 1968 San Jose GT 390 Fastback Blue Paint under Red Oxide Primer
« Reply #25 on: October 23, 2019, 06:35:08 PM »
Looks to me (in the first couple of pictures) that the blue is over the sound deadener since you can see the texture in the blue
If you were to chip off the black sound deadener I doubt there would be blue under those areas given what the pictures show.




Good point. I will have to have a closer look, but the blue is all over the car and deep down. It's under the car and in crevices and nooks and crannies like under the gas tank edges etc. Sure has been a mystery the whole time. Not that it matters as it will all be gone soon enough, however it would be nice to know once and all conclusively what the deal is with the blue paint everywhere. Someone obviously made a real effort to cover the entire car with it. The only place I have not seen any evidence of it is in the interior. Odd that it was in some areas of the outer engine bay as well...
Mike
1968 Mustang Fastback GT 390 Raven Black, 4 speed
8R02S162374, San Jose, June 5, 1968