Topic: 67 SJ Running Change Survey - Windshield Washer Reservoir

[Bob Gaines]

Car or body would not be "stalled" at any point on the line only at the end of the body and trim section. It could be pulled out according to workers but that would not be for a lack of a part. And if pulled that would be a very random event and not one that often happened while the rest of production would provide the data we would be studying in these surveys


The build would not have been started until all the parts were in house and available according to workers and managers. Now a slight hold up at the mid point was expected and room made for within limits. Looking at data from later built cars were we have more information there could be 3-6 days between when the body was started and the car completed. But for more of these running changes a range covering even that amount of days will bring allot of clarity to the information.

For this particular discussion the choice of when the change over would take place would be in the first half of the build since the bag bracket needed to be welded before painting and in turn make for a tighter/narrower range when compared to other changes that would come into play on the later half of the cars build.

NOTE: Posted my findings in the first post of this thread. Turned out a neater pattern than I would have expected.

Jeff, I was suggesting that something could happen during production regardless of where and what for that would keep a car from being officially finished (build date) . That delay could skew the findings on otherwise typical transition periods. Not a every time explanation but possible a sometime.  Such anomalies can add to confusion which is why I posted the reminder .

[J_Speegle]

Jeff, I was suggesting that something could happen during production regardless of where and what for that would keep a car from being officially finished (build date) . That delay could skew the findings on otherwise typical transition periods. Not a every time explanation but possible a sometime.  Such anomalies can add to confusion which is why I posted the reminder .

We may always find what may be those oddballs and the reason for publishing a range. We'll just have to do our best. Think the way it went for this first time I'm surprised how many data points could be collected and how well a pattern emerged. Should be an improvement and increase our understanding but accept that not all details will be as visible and easy to document as this one was.

[Boss/Cyclone]

My 67 GT500 that is mostly original and i have owned for 35 years has a bottle.   The marti report says scheduled San Jose build date of 3-20-67 and Ford vin #192xxx.   Completed by Shelby on April 27th.

[J_Speegle]

My 67 GT500 that is mostly original and i have owned for 35 years has a bottle.   The marti report says scheduled San Jose build date of 3-20-67 and Ford vin #192xxx.   Completed by Shelby on April 27th.

What is the date on the Marti report that the car was actually completed  if you don't mind?

While we're collecting data what is the date on the drivers side inner fender panel also?  Thanks

[gtamustang]

Jeff,

My 67 convertible of many years ago is at the very tail end of the washer bag era. 7R03A193xxx, build data 21C. (not D)

Regards,
Pete Morgan

[Boss/Cyclone]

I guess I was not understanding the marti report.  Now that I got out all my Shelby paperwork I see some different dates.   So, marti report says 
Serialized : 03/06/67
Scheduled for Build;  03/20/67
Actually Built:  04/27/67

When I posted I was thinking 04-27-67 was the completed at Shelby date, but after digging out my paperwork from SAAC it says completed 05/13/67.   Sorry for jumping on here before checking all my paperwork.   But still my Ford vin is 7R02Q192xxx which seems to show that there will not be an actual vin number cut off but more of a date of completion cut off for the change over.

[J_Speegle]

Thanks for checking and the confirmation. Now it fits nicely in the pattern identified in the first post.

[Boss/Cyclone]

Thanks for checking and the confirmation. Now it fits nicely in the pattern identified in the first post.

Jeff was it normal for that big of a delay?   Ford vin7R02Q192xxx not completed till some cars with vins ending in 203xxx were completed?   I am assuming something specific to the Shelby spec was not available.

[Bob Gaines]

Jeff was it normal for that big of a delay?   Ford vin7R02Q192xxx not completed till some cars with vins ending in 203xxx were completed?   I am assuming something specific to the Shelby spec was not available.

I don't know your Shelby vin to see what options your car had. Did it have A/C?

[J_Speegle]

Jeff was it normal for that big of a delay?   Ford vin7R02Q192xxx not completed till some cars with vins ending in 203xxx were completed?   I am assuming something specific to the Shelby spec was not available.

Happened all the time. Maybe things were running behind, supply of some needed part or sub assembly or things like that. Then for particular order the managers and workers didn't like to do cars that were highly optioned one after another since that would make things more difficult but that sort of thing could not equate to days/weeks but instead a day or so only.

I'm sticking with, at this time, a lack of some part they needed before they would start the build. You might want to check the dates of other cars in your build group just for the heck of it but that can span over weeks of production at San Jose. Just another example of why this is not unusual. They may have used some of these orders as fill between others with higher priority 

[Boss/Cyclone]

I don't know your Shelby vin to see what options your car had. Did it have A/C?

I added it to my signature.  It is a no option car.