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69-70 front disk brake proportioning valve question
« on: May 12, 2019, 01:47:32 AM »
Simply want to know if 69 and 70 front disk brake proportioning valves are exactly the same and can be used on either regardless if you don't care about date codes etc. 

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Dan

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Re: 69-70 front disk brake proportioning valve question
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2019, 02:07:15 AM »
Simply want to know if 69 and 70 front disk brake proportioning valves are exactly the same and can be used on either regardless if you don't care about date codes etc. 

Thanks,
Dan
The 69 and 70 are different. They are plumbed differently and the bracket is different  . The distribution block is different and so is the proportiong valve They technically work the same but is not a direct bolt in.
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Re: 69-70 front disk brake proportioning valve question
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2019, 02:14:09 AM »
Bob,

Thanks, can you tell me if this is 69 or 70 before I screw up and buy the wrong thing.

Thanks,
Dan

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Re: 69-70 front disk brake proportioning valve question
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2019, 02:21:20 AM »
Bob,

Thanks, can you tell me if this is 69 or 70 before I screw up and buy the wrong thing.

Thanks,
Dan
It is a 69. They even repro the 69. It is not worth the time and money to make the 69 one work in a 70 IMO if that is what you are contemplating.
« Last Edit: May 13, 2019, 04:11:15 PM by Bob Gaines »
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Re: 69-70 front disk brake proportioning valve question
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2019, 02:23:42 AM »
Bob,

Thank you!  I learned something new and you saved me from making a useless purchase.

Dan

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Re: 69-70 front disk brake proportioning valve question
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2019, 02:33:32 AM »
Some examples From what was handy

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Re: 69-70 front disk brake proportioning valve question
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2019, 02:42:33 AM »
Jeff,

Thanks.  I studied the pics and for the life of me cannot see the difference.  I have one on my 70 Mach 1 so I can use it to see what I need for the 70 B2.  I had a chance to buy a 69 so I asked the question to ensure I did not buy something that would not work.

Dan

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Re: 69-70 front disk brake proportioning valve question
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2019, 05:22:37 AM »
Jeff,

Thanks.  I studied the pics and for the life of me cannot see the difference.

My mistake for doing this so late. Originally showed the first picture twice first as a 69 and then as a 70 and I'm certain this confused things for you. Fixed it and you can see that the blocks are mounted differently (orientation) so the brackets are different and the 69 has a separate proporsioning value below and to the right where the 70 does not. Connections for the brake lines for 69 have three on the top and one on the bottom as well as the one on the end. While 70 has two on each side with the one at the end

Sorry for causing any confusion
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Re: 69-70 front disk brake proportioning valve question
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2019, 01:06:03 PM »
No apologies needed.  I appreciate the assistance from you and Bob. 

Dan

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Re: 69-70 front disk brake proportioning valve question
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2019, 02:36:41 PM »
No apologies needed.  I appreciate the assistance from you and Bob. 

Dan
And I helped you even though you got all of the good parts at the Lawrence swap meet before me last weekend  :'( . What a guy I am .  ;D ;D . You had to do better then me because I came up empty. Best of luck with the project.
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Re: 69-70 front disk brake proportioning valve question
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2019, 02:55:44 PM »
No apologies needed.  I appreciate the assistance from you and Bob. 

Dan

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Re: 69-70 front disk brake proportioning valve question
« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2019, 02:58:25 PM »
Bob,. At least we both weren't following Randy sizemore.  Besides there was really only one good part, a front license plate bracket.  You can get me back at mid America next month. 
Thanks for all the great assistance and advice.

Dan

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Re: 69-70 front disk brake proportioning valve question
« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2019, 09:07:31 AM »
It is a 69. They even repro the 69 one but not the 70.It is not worth the time and money to make the 69 one work in a 70 IMO if that is what you are contemplating.

Bob, I don't know if it's still the case, but there was a reproduction of the 1970 combination valve available from CJ Pony Parts a few years ago. I bought one to check it out when they first became available.
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Re: 69-70 front disk brake proportioning valve question
« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2019, 03:55:51 PM »
Out of curiosity I just now checked the CJ Pony Parts site and a direct bolt 70 unit does not show up.
https://www.cjponyparts.com/scott-drake-disc-brake-distribution-block-1970/p/2B075F/
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