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Trouble finding headliner/sunvisors for '67 Ivy Gold Interior
« on: January 13, 2019, 02:58:11 PM »
My '67 coupe has the deluxe Ivy Gold interior, code 6G.  I did an interior refresh in 2013 when I first bought the car, and at the time, I had no problem getting a reproduction Ivy Gold headliner from NPD in the correct shade of green.  At the time, I was on a budget and so I kept the original sunvisors. 

I've since gutted the interior for paint and body, and my wife recently bought me a replacement headliner and sunvisors.  A lot must have changed in six years, because the interior colors I'm seeing now are nowhere close.

She first ordered from NPD (part number HC-50-F for the headliner and VH-78-G for the sunvisors).  The parts I received were made by TMI and were way too dark.

The original sunvisors on top, the TMI-brand replacements on bottom


Both sets of sunvisors compared to the interior paint on the doors


I spoke to a manager from NPD, and ended up returning those items.  The manager agreed that there was a substantial difference in color, but that the lighter I color I need was no longer available.

I next ordered from Mustangs Unlimited, part numbers V67IGDC for the sunvisors and HD10465 for the headliner.  The parts I received were made by Distinctive Industries.  The color on these parts matched the TMI color, except for the outer material on the sunvisors, which was the correct shade of light green.

The Distinctive Industries sunvisors--the light green color around the edge is the correct color I need, the darker brown material is incorrect


Close up of the color difference on the Distinctive sunvisor


Does anyone have any idea where I can find a correct headliner and sunvisors?  Does anyone know if TMI or Distinctive will make these items in a custom color?  Thanks for any help/leads on this.
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Re: Trouble finding headliner/sunvisors for '67 Ivy Gold Interior
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2019, 04:19:43 PM »
I had this same issue on my '66 car.  I don't recall how I solved it but do recall I asked whoever I bought the visors from to compare the look with their headliner material to ensure a match.  Have you tried Scott Drake for these, as that may be where I ended up.
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Re: Trouble finding headliner/sunvisors for '67 Ivy Gold Interior
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2019, 05:49:33 PM »
Dye
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Re: Trouble finding headliner/sunvisors for '67 Ivy Gold Interior
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2019, 05:53:38 PM »
I had this same issue on my '66 car.  I don't recall how I solved it but do recall I asked whoever I bought the visors from to compare the look with their headliner material to ensure a match.  Have you tried Scott Drake for these, as that may be where I ended up.

Thanks for the reply.  The manager at NPD went and checked his stock, but he didn't have anything that was the correct color.  Do you remember where you bought the Drake ones from?  I see on their website where they list Medium Ivy Gold and Ivy Gold, but neither has pictures.
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Re: Trouble finding headliner/sunvisors for '67 Ivy Gold Interior
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2019, 05:54:07 PM »
Dye

That seems like a nightmare to try and dye an entire headliner.  I really hope it doesn't come to that.
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Re: Trouble finding headliner/sunvisors for '67 Ivy Gold Interior
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2019, 08:11:10 PM »
That seems like a nightmare to try and dye an entire headliner.  I really hope it doesn't come to that.

Just install it first and then mask it off. Spray the visors off the car.
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Re: Trouble finding headliner/sunvisors for '67 Ivy Gold Interior
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2019, 07:54:11 PM »
Looks like dyeing it is pretty much my only option.  Thanks!
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Re: Trouble finding headliner/sunvisors for '67 Ivy Gold Interior
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2019, 09:08:00 PM »
My '67 coupe has the deluxe Ivy Gold interior, code 6G.  I did an interior refresh in 2013 when I first bought the car, and at the time, I had no problem getting a reproduction Ivy Gold headliner from NPD in the correct shade of green.  At the time, I was on a budget and so I kept the original sunvisors. 

I've since gutted the interior for paint and body, and my wife recently bought me a replacement headliner and sunvisors.  A lot must have changed in six years, because the interior colors I'm seeing now are nowhere close.

She first ordered from NPD (part number HC-50-F for the headliner and VH-78-G for the sunvisors).  The parts I received were made by TMI and were way too dark.

Does anyone have any idea where I can find a correct headliner and sunvisors?  Does anyone know if TMI or Distinctive will make these items in a custom color?  Thanks for any help/leads on this.

This has me thinking about my '67 coupe with Ivy Gold.  The visors are intact, good shape, functional and yes rather dirty after 50 + years.  Probably a light cleaning will help.  The original headliner is also intact, tight across all overhead areas and not even that soiled.  Except, the headliner has the typical small rip/tear around the coat hooks above the door.  while I should probably be satisfied that the original headliner looks pretty good, is there any way to "patch" over those small tears in the headliner fabric?  It won't hide the repair, but the obvious holes would be gone.
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Re: Trouble finding headliner/sunvisors for '67 Ivy Gold Interior
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2019, 09:10:52 PM »
This has me thinking about my '67 coupe with Ivy Gold.  The visors are intact, good shape, functional and yes rather dirty after 50 + years.  Probably a light cleaning will help.  The original headliner is also intact, tight across all overhead areas and not even that soiled.  Except, the headliner has the typical small rip/tear around the coat hooks above the door.  while I should probably be satisfied that the original headliner looks pretty good, is there any way to "patch" over those small tears in the headliner fabric?  It won't hide the repair, but the obvious holes would be gone.

I've never had much luck repairing a headliner.  It seems like the fabric gets very brittle/dry and the stitching usually starts turning loose.  My '66 coupe has the original headliner in it, and I hope and pray it doesn't let go one day.
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Re: Trouble finding headliner/sunvisors for '67 Ivy Gold Interior
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2019, 09:52:22 PM »
This has me thinking about my '67 coupe with Ivy Gold.  The visors are intact, good shape, functional and yes rather dirty after 50 + years.  Probably a light cleaning will help.  The original headliner is also intact, tight across all overhead areas and not even that soiled.  Except, the headliner has the typical small rip/tear around the coat hooks above the door.  while I should probably be satisfied that the original headliner looks pretty good, is there any way to "patch" over those small tears in the headliner fabric?  It won't hide the repair, but the obvious holes would be gone.

I repaired a 6 inch rip in my 68 unrestored coupe by taking it out and gluing some cotton fabric on the back then brushing some dye on the rip. I also resewed  the seams. The toughest part was rehanging it in the exact position so all of the holes would line back up.

You might try SMS fabrics and see if they have any head liner material. It would not be hard to make one.

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Re: Trouble finding headliner/sunvisors for '67 Ivy Gold Interior
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2019, 10:38:46 PM »
I have a 6G interior Cougar ( mostly the same as mustang ) and the visor color is the same as yours and so is my reproduction head liner which also was replaced some years ago, maybe contact WCCC and ask if they may have one in this color on the shelf.
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Re: Trouble finding headliner/sunvisors for '67 Ivy Gold Interior
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2019, 11:27:22 PM »
It appears they have your light green.
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Re: Trouble finding headliner/sunvisors for '67 Ivy Gold Interior
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2019, 05:18:07 PM »
I have a 6G interior Cougar ( mostly the same as mustang ) and the visor color is the same as yours and so is my reproduction head liner which also was replaced some years ago, maybe contact WCCC and ask if they may have one in this color on the shelf.

Thanks, I'll give them a call.  I saw on their website where they have sunvisors that look correct.
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Re: Trouble finding headliner/sunvisors for '67 Ivy Gold Interior
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2019, 05:19:08 PM »
It appears they have your light green.
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Thanks for the lead!  I'll give them a call.
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Re: Trouble finding headliner/sunvisors for '67 Ivy Gold Interior
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2019, 10:59:34 PM »
I meant to Reply to your Post earlier, but of course got interrupted. A little over 4-1/2 years ago, I began disassembling my 67 Convertible to start its restoration. One of the first things I noticed while removing existing parts, was my visors and the my windshield pillar pads. My visors were actually not too bad ; no tears, lumps, bumps or bruises, just a little dirty and faded from being more exposed to sunlight than visors from Coupes and Fastbacks would be.
Sometimes during disassembly, I would make a list of what I needed, or needed to be done, and other times I would try to address them as they were removed. I had received a notice from CJPP that either the visors were on sale, or I had a coupon for a purchase. I decided to order a set, which I could either use as spares while restoring my originals, or if they were an exact replacement in appearance, possibly end up using them. CJ's site I (or catalog) noted that were available in my Ivy Gold, were made by TMI, and would be shipped directly from the manufacturer. I must say, what you received was a lot closer than what I received (see attached picture). As you can see, not only was the color wrong, the visors were not for 67's, or any year Mustang that I am familiar with (65-67). I of course called CJ, and they said to return the visors to them, and they would be sure that TMI sent me the correct ones, which they did. The new ones were the correct Ivy Gold color, and of the correct 67 shape. They are a little thicker than the originals, but overall, pretty close.

I didn't have the "reproduction option" for my windshield pillar pads, as these are not being reproduced for 67 Convertibles. Unfortunately, my originals did not clean up satisfactorily, so I had no option other than to dye them. I figured at the same time, I might just go ahead and do the same with my original visors.
I ordered the Ivy Gold Vinyl dye, and spent about twice as much for the vinyl dye prep from my paint jobber. I followed the prep directions and prepared my original pillar pads for the vinyl dye. The result was that the color match was actually pretty good ; however, it was way, way too glossy. Now I can only hope that I can get some clear satin or dull coat vinyl dye to tone the gloss way, way down. I'm just glad I didn't do my original visors, and may not.

One more thing that I noticed in your opening Post ; while both the first and second sets you received were both obviously the wrong color, I agree that the piping on the second set is the correct color ; however, the material on the visor itself appears to be of the ?moonskin" type. In looking at the picture in your initial Post that shows your original visor, it appears to have the same, wavy imitation leather grain as the visors on my '67 Convertible. While the "moonskin" pattern is correct for my '66, I didn't think it was correct for '67. That being said, I found it interesting that the major suppliers are offering '67 visors with the "moonskin" pattern. I'm not sure what's going on there ?

Just thought that you ought to know what I found available about 4 years ago, and what to watch put for when using the vinyl dye (maybe that heavy gloss has been corrected by now ? ).

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