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Offline Chris

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Cobra kit medallion
« on: January 11, 2019, 11:47:05 PM »
The early cobra kits (various induction and dress up kits) advertised for 65-66 mustangs came with round 2-inch medallions for mounting on the car, believe on the fender below the engine size badge.

Does anyone know how to identify an original cobra dress up kit medallion? There are a number on eBay that range from $30 to $100 individually that look the same, marked with the Ford part number on the back. Here is one example on eBay now: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mint-1963-Shelby-Cobra-Roadster-hood-emblem-Medallion/362527891650?epid=5025706676&hash=item546858a0c2:g:e4oAAOSwhnhb5dW4

I wonder if the originals have Ford or FoMoCo oval markings? The only markings on these on eBay are: C3RA-14225-A / 5508-C
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Re: Cobra kit medallion
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2019, 10:02:58 AM »
Some more background on the Ford dealer cobra kits attached. I have the early cobra valve covers (without oil fill hole or PCV ventilation hole) and the 6v tripower. Looking to find one of the original cobra medallions like described and shown on the Ford advertisement.

The Ford High Performance catalog listing the medallions says they can be mounted anywhere, see attached pic.
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Offline 196667Bob

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Re: Cobra kit medallion
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2019, 12:03:58 PM »
And some more. I don't believe that these ever came "intentionally" with any of the "Engine Dress-Up Kits".

Bob
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Re: Cobra kit medallion
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2019, 12:41:07 PM »
Right, not the “dress up kits” but the performance enhancement kits listed in the Ford High Performance brochure shown in your last pic. Those kits listed had 2 medallions per cobra kit that would come with the kit.

The question is, how to determine which are original? Unfortunately, the cobra medallions shown in the literature only show the front side of the medallion and not the reverse. The part number for the medallions is specified but not if markings and part numbers were placed on the back side of the medallions.
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Re: Cobra kit medallion
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2019, 01:26:18 PM »
The question is, how to determine which are original? Unfortunately, the cobra medallions shown in the literature only show the front side of the medallion and not the reverse. The part number for the medallions is specified but not if markings and part numbers were placed on the back side of the medallions.

Yes, I too would like to know. I have never seen a "documented" original pair to answer that question.

Possibly Bob Perkins can enlighten us all on this ?

Bob
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Re: Cobra kit medallion
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2019, 01:35:43 PM »
Here is the one I got off eBay a couple of days ago, just arrived, was not shown in the bag on the eBay listing. The bag is sealed with the Official Ford Liscensed Product tag on the front, so this medallion would be an official reproduction/release by Ford but not an NOS original. I was unaware of Ford releasing these again, an official Ford liscensed version. That’s what this one looks to be. It looks to be very good quality and nicely done.
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Re: Cobra kit medallion
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2019, 02:16:42 PM »
Try reaching out to Brant at VA Mustang. This car they restored is one of the few I can think of that has the emblems http://blog.virginiaclassicmustang.com/2011/04/early-1965-mustang-289-hipo-convertible_20.html?m=1
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Re: Cobra kit medallion
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2019, 03:51:22 PM »
Here is the one I got off eBay a couple of days ago, just arrived, was not shown in the bag on the eBay listing. The bag is sealed with the Official Ford Liscensed Product tag on the front, so this medallion would be an official reproduction/release by Ford but not an NOS original. I was unaware of Ford releasing these again, an official Ford liscensed version. That’s what this one looks to be. It looks to be very good quality and nicely done.
FYI just because it is an official Ford licensed version doesn't guarantee the item what ever it might be to be a faithful reproduction of the original. Ford is more interested in the fees it seems rather then careful reproduction. Their criteria is very loose I am told and as some other licensed items seem to indicate. It is all over the spectrum. It is up to the mfg to follow through with the exactness effort.
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Re: Cobra kit medallion
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2019, 09:00:35 PM »
Right, I agree. The only reproduction cobra emblem out there that I could find showing liscensed by Ford is the one by Scott Drake at the Drake Automotive site. That one is made by the original cobra emblem manufacturer:

http://www.drakeautomotivegroup.com/Store/Product/C3RA-14225-A.aspx?wid=141
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Re: Cobra kit medallion
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Re: Cobra kit medallion
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2019, 05:49:33 PM »
Very cool kit Bob - Thanks
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Re: Cobra kit medallion
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2019, 06:41:28 PM »
Yes, thanks Bob! I’ve never seen an actual Cobra kit or original Cobra kit medallions.

Now we know that a big distinction between the reproduction medallion from the original OEM and the NOS or used originals is the FoMoCo oval and triangle symbol on originals but not reproductions...guessing the additional triangle symbol is the manufacturer’s mark.
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Re: Cobra kit medallion
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2019, 12:12:23 AM »
Bob : Thanks for "coming through" and educating all of us. I just knew you could help.

Besides making us all aware of the "true" Cobra medallions, the picture you Posted of the 1967 Engine Dress-up Kit helps me in my work on an Article about the Engine Dress-up Kits. So "double thanks" from me.

Bob
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Re: Cobra kit medallion
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2019, 10:36:35 AM »
Your welcome,
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Re: Cobra kit medallion
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2019, 08:52:32 PM »
Yes, thanks Bob! I’ve never seen an actual Cobra kit or original Cobra kit medallions.

Now we know that a big distinction between the reproduction medallion from the original OEM and the NOS or used originals is the FoMoCo oval and triangle symbol on originals but not reproductions...guessing the additional triangle symbol is the manufacturer’s mark.
Yes very cool . If you compare the front of the medallion side by side between the genuine and the reproduction there is typically a difference too.
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