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Offline 65K

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65 K code help
« on: December 22, 2018, 01:33:34 PM »
Hi, I am new to the forums and well fords in general .I have done frame offs for 67 chevelles w/ number matching in the past . My wifes father had bought a 1965 Mustang gt K code car 63B, A , 66, pony interior, from S & C ford in 1965 in San Francisco . We recieved this car from hermother  as of recent, its need a full restoration , been stored for 32 years , has 52k miles on it. 99% original , only item which have been changed since it purchase , cap , rotor, coil, battery , and to be able to move it tires. Like a time capsule .
I have checked all the numbers / vin/ everything is correct, engine , trans , body, steering, rear end, etc.
I am about to take my pictures prior to disassembly, and have not found a build sheet yet, the car was from san jose california and have read they were famous for tossing them in the trash. I have the originl invoice from S&C ford of san franciseco , it only states the vin along with as equiped and the price , have the original title , original plates, all engine and component id tags , original owners manual filled out by the dealer. No build sheet or owners warranty card.

After looking at everything, there are two items which wouldnt be on this car , but were put on by the dealer, as they were one of the highest selling dealers of the shelby versions from my research ,
so i think they threw these few thing onto the car, my question, I have no proff of them do i keep them or put it back to its original form.
It has the bullet style shelby mirror on the drivers door, along with Magnesium Torque Thrust Wheels Mag 14 X 6 .

Hope to here from you , regards Larry


Larry Deuschel

Offline jwc66k

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Re: 65 K code help
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2018, 02:02:52 PM »
Larry,
Welcome to the forum. My 66 "K" code came from Tuban Ford in Mountain View. Your black on black Mustang should look sharp. Without the original window sticker, you don't know how the car was delivered to the dealer, and you're right, the San Jose plant did not leave the build sheets in cars in that time period.
By your post, it appears you are looking at factory original for your car. The mirror is not assembly line, nor are the wheels. Your choice, keep or change (they are add-ons). The lack of a window sticker also give you the opportunity to "add" factory options, like a remote controlled mirror (question one answered) and Style Steel Wheels (question two answered). You can also install dual Red Line tires, a console, a Rally Pac and a matching passengers side mirror.
Good luck,
Jim
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Offline J_Speegle

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Re: 65 K code help
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2018, 05:22:01 PM »
Welcome to the site - Hope you find the information and support helpful in your concours related endeavors

Own and have owned many ex S & C cars since I too am fairly local. Maybe you can post a picture or two of the car and someone here may remember the car since there are a number of us that have been around and involved with the cars and the hobby in the area for many decades and the fact that its only been in storage since the 80's doesn't mean we had not seen the car during the 20 or so years prior to that.

The items you mention the wheels and the mirror may be original but we will never know nor will you be able to convince many they are without original paperwork - the receipt of sales paperwork listing them. Don't believe the fact that the dealership sold a fair number of Shelby's and used Shelby's to be a big thing in the discussion but that is just me.

Surprised the owners over the years kept the Magnesium Torque Thrust's sine they can be such a pain as far as issues and maintenance. Have seen allot of owners - especially K code fastback owners add the mirrors over time. As far as leaving them or replacing them it depends on you and your intended use or choices. The wheels are a simple bolt on while the mirror is more permanent.  We can discuss over in the Judging section of the site the impact of each choice but still many choose to do one thing (for their reasons) and simply take the small deduction and live with it.

It just came to me to ask if there were any pictures the family took with the car over the long term that would show a possible date or document a point in time with these two items. Just a thought - you never know about those shoe boxes filled with pictures or those photo albums laying around ;)

Again welcome to the site
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Re: 65 K code help
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2018, 11:22:10 PM »
With 52k miles, does the car need to be restored?  If it's all original with original paint/interior, would be a shame to restore it.

How about posting some pictures of the car as it is.  It may be something nice enough to keep original and simply detail/preserve it as-is.  Replace non-original parts with good used original to match the patina.  If it's a nice car, it's worth way more in original condition than restored.
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Offline hopeto

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Re: 65 K code help
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2018, 09:01:31 PM »
+1 on what Charles Turner stated. They are only original once!!!
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Re: 65 K code help
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2018, 10:34:58 PM »
With 52k miles, does the car need to be restored?  If it's all original with original paint/interior, would be a shame to restore it.

How about posting some pictures of the car as it is.  It may be something nice enough to keep original and simply detail/preserve it as-is.  Replace non-original parts with good used original to match the patina.  If it's a nice car, it's worth way more in original condition than restored.

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