Topic: Sept 64 289 Convertible questions

[66RavenGTCoupeAgain]

Hi guys,
Can anyone help me with my SJ car? It has power steering and AC. These things have been haunting me and my build for a while now.....
I'd just like to know:

What colour my shocks should be?
Should the fuel line run behind or in front of the distributor and which bracket should I use?
Should I use 1 or two starter motor cable brackets?
Where should the coil be mounted?
And where should the engine tag go?

Thanks in advance.

[mmsnyr8120]

give Matt a call.  our SJ Sept. 17 1964 conv.   9895395660

[J_Speegle]

Can anyone help me with my SJ car? It has power steering and AC. These things have been haunting me and my build for a while now.....
I'd just like to know:

What colour my shocks should be?

Semi-gloss black

Should the fuel line run behind or in front of the distributor and which bracket should I use?

Which bracket?? there is only one bracket and clip that I'm aware of

Should I use 1 or two starter motor cable brackets?

At least on this examples -  one

Where should the coil be mounted?

Passenger head at the front surface above and slightly to the inside of the alternator location

And where should the engine tag go?

PASSENGER (Thanks Charles) side intake manifold

[jwc66k]

Should I use 1 or two starter motor cable brackets?

At least on this examples -  one

If the part number on the cable assembly is C5ZF-14431-A (or -B), there are two cable clamps. In 1966, the cable assemble was C6DF-14431-A using only one clamp. I found an original C5ZF-144312-A on my Oct 65 San Jose Fastback. (It said Canada on it as well.)
Jim

[J_Speegle]

If the part number on the cable assembly is C5ZF-14431-A (or -B), there are two cable clamps. In 1966, the cable assemble was C6DF-14431-A using only one clamp. I found an original C5ZF-144312-A on my Oct 65 San Jose Fastback. (It said Canada on it as well.)
Jim

Jim - have to disagree. Are you basing your comment only on your one examples or do you have more vin's/cars to support it?

I found plenty of examples with a single from mid summer to early 65 at San Jose and other plants - the basis for my statement.

There does not seem to be a consistent (always) pattern on these just going by the majority and the close other examples and evidence found on them. Picture posted is from another Oct 64 San Jose fastback and it only had one. 

[ChrisV289]

What power steering unit are you running?  I assume the eaton pump but is it the remote reservoir or the one with the brackets to make it sit lower?

[CharlesTurner]

On the intake drivers side front

'65 (alternator production) usually would have engine tag on passenger side of intake.

[jwc66k]

- have to disagree. Are you basing your comment only on your one examples or do you have more vin's/cars to support it?

This is an October 65 build 66 Mustang that had an old starter cable assembly, C5ZB-14431-A, with two brackets and a "disintegrated" insulation sleeve, so I replaced it with a reproduction assembly of the same assembly number. I assume that I had a situation of Ford using up old stock, a 65 part on a 66. This was discussed with the two previous owners who told me what they had done to the car before I bought it. To continue this a bit further, 64 Mustangs, 260 and 289 engines, used part number C4ZF-14431-A (or -B) that is shown with one bracket in the 64 Electrical Assembly Manual. I again will state - one or two brackets depends on the assembly part number. An early 65 may have used a 64 cable to consume existing stock, hence one bracket.
When the part in question found on a car reflects the part number on the Ford Assembly Drawing, you have accept it as accurate. A picture might be worth a 1000 words, but the part number is the final deciding factor.
Jim

[J_Speegle]

This is an October 65 build 66 Mustang ................

Maybe that is at the core of the difference since the period in question is Sept 64

When the part in question found on a car reflects the part number on the Ford Assembly Drawing, you have accept it as accurate. A picture might be worth a 1000 words, but the part number is the final deciding factor.

Guess just a point were we're going to agree to disagree. But that's ok.  Your referring to the cable while the question is the retainers/brackets that connect to the motor mounts. 

[J_Speegle]

'65 (alternator production) usually would have engine tag on passenger side of intake.

Thanks - took a bit to find one but corrected my post above

[CharlesTurner]

RH, opposite side...

[rocket289k]

'65 (alternator production) usually would have engine tag on passenger side of intake.

Should be be expected / hold true for all plants Charles for '65 (alternator production)?

Regards,


Ron

[CharlesTurner]

Should be be expected / hold true for all plants Charles for '65 (alternator production)?

Yes, standard practice, it later was changed to the location Jeff noted.  I assume beginning of '66 production, but would be a good discussion item for another topic.

[rocket289k]

Yes, standard practice, it later was changed to the location Jeff noted.  I assume beginning of '66 production, but would be a good discussion item for another topic.

Thanks Charles - I wasn't aware of that nuance (for Alternator equipped '65s).  I learned something new today.  In addition, is the passenger side also used for generator equipped cars?

Regards,


Ron

[CharlesTurner]

On V8 generator cars, the engine tag was usually mounted at the temp sending unit since coils were mounted to the top of the intake.