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Offline MustangAndFairlane1867

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Door Hinge
« on: August 04, 2017, 09:17:14 PM »
Was there slight a difference in the door hinge design in 1965 and 1966?  Reason I ask is that in the boxes of parts for my 1965 fastback (SJ/2.13.1965) I've come across a black hinge that is slightly different from the red ones that came off my Rangoon red car.  You can see the difference (I sincerely hope) in the attached pictures where the red one has a 90 degree cut in the front where the black one has more of a 45 degree cut.  And one more question: is there a proper and safe technique for adding a new hinge springe?  Thanks, Ron

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Re: Door Hinge
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2017, 11:21:53 PM »
Use zip ties to compress the inner parts of the spring, then install.  Then cut the zip ties.
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Re: Door Hinge
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2017, 11:34:26 PM »
How did you compress the new, compact, extremely stiff/strong spring enough to secure it with zip ties?  My first thought would be a bench vice, but that could be a delicate and dangerous procedure.  Ron

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Re: Door Hinge
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2017, 12:37:26 AM »
Have you tried the search feature of this forum? (Put quotation marks around "door hinge spring".)
http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=4208.msg23257#msg23257
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Re: Door Hinge
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2017, 12:42:10 AM »
Was there slight a difference in the door hinge design in 1965 and 1966?  Reason I ask is that in the boxes of parts for my 1965 fastback (SJ/2.13.1965) I've come across a black hinge that is slightly different from the red ones that came off my Rangoon red car.  You can see the difference (I sincerely hope) in the attached pictures where the red one has a 90 degree cut in the front where the black one has more of a 45 degree cut.
That's the biggest design difference visible. There is a transition sometime in 1965 from the square end to the angled end. The holes are the same.
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Re: Door Hinge
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2017, 01:32:27 AM »
Jim

I did a copy/paste of "door hinge spring" and another search without the quotes and the only hit I get is the conversation we're currently having.  Ron...

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Re: Door Hinge
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2017, 12:58:03 PM »
For anyone interested, I found a very useful 3-part video on YouTube showing how to rebuild the lower door hinge on '64, '65, '66 and '67 Mustangs.  I don't know how to copy/paste a web address here, but you can get to the video if you go to YouTube and enter this: 67 mustang lower door hinge disassembly part 1.  Ron...

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Re: Door Hinge
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2017, 01:17:57 PM »
I did a copy/paste of "door hinge spring" and another search without the quotes and the only hit I get is the conversation we're currently having. 
If you click the link I included with the "door hinge spring" info, here it is again -
http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=4208.msg23191#msg23191
- it will take you directly to a "how to" on door hinge springs.
In the "search" of this forum, entering "door hinge spring" you will get 5 hits of posts with that exact phrase. Without the quotes, you will get 24 hits that include all three words in the post but not in any order. I did this about a minute ago.
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Re: Door Hinge
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2017, 08:21:19 PM »
Here's an old Blog post that I did on the design differences in the door hinges

http://blog.virginiaclassicmustang.com/2012/01/just-details65-66-mustang-door-hinges.html

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Re: Door Hinge
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2017, 12:36:03 PM »
Brant--I really enjoyed reading your hinge blog.  For what it's worth, my SJ '65 fastback with an assembly date of 2.16.1965 has the hinges with the squared-off ends.  Ron...

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Re: Door Hinge
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2017, 06:01:00 PM »
Looked through my pictures and this appears (just based on the collection I have at the moment) that the change over at San Jose was around

Lowest VIN car I have record of with the beveled hinges 5R140504
Highest VIN with the square edged hinges 5R187778

What I found most interesting was that when you had one style (for example beveled) all the hinges on the car were all the same style. No mixing of the two styles which (from the supply side of things) is interesting since one might expect that the plant would use up the old and transition to the newer style as supply ran out or at some point mixed the two. Like bolt head markings in some transition ranges.  Seems to suggest intent.

Do have one anomaly, a pretty late 66 built at San Jose that had square edge hinge.  But only one   

Focused only on San Jose based on the OP's need and original question


5R14050x



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5R1965x



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Re: Door Hinge
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2017, 12:38:12 AM »
Jeff,

I have a beveled on my driver side and a straight on my passenger side....5R152
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Re: Door Hinge
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2017, 08:51:17 PM »
Jeff,

I have a beveled on my driver side and a straight on my passenger side....5R152

Thanks - that example is certainly in the "gap" that showed up in my search. There should IMHO be a time period where one style was replacing the other. Still is interesting that we've not see a mix on either (top different than bottom for example) side. So far the pattern is suggesting intent
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