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Offline Brian Conway

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Ford Four Speed Shifter
« on: July 22, 2017, 06:21:12 PM »
My car has a T-ten B/W transmission with the 4 speed shifter, rods, tabs and Ford shifter with reverse lock out.  In a previous discussion I learned that the HEH-BT close ratio trans is the assembly line part correct for my May of 65 San Jose GT.  I also learned that the present shifter, rods and tabs would need to be replaced ?  Looking for some help with that.  My shift lever with reverse lock out finger pull should swap to another shifter body OK ?  The Ford shifter bodies usually have no identifying numbers or marks but are all the same up to 68 ?  Do the Ford rods and tabs carry any identifying numbers or marks ?   Thanks for any help with this.  Brian
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Re: Ford Four Speed Shifter
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2017, 08:12:49 PM »
Brian,
Download this http://squarebirds.org/Manuals/1965/1965-72FordPartsTextCatalog/ and you will have your answer. It's what I would have to do from my paper copy but my back is aching again.
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Re: Ford Four Speed Shifter
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2017, 10:13:00 PM »
Contact Bill Healey in Olney, Maryland, He is a FORD shifter rebuilder and expert!

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Re: Ford Four Speed Shifter
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2017, 11:01:17 PM »
Didn't Bill Healey move to North Carolina? 
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Re: Ford Four Speed Shifter
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2017, 08:41:10 AM »
Didn't Bill Healey move to North Carolina?

Randy - no.  You are confusing him with Bill Herndon.
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« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2017, 09:52:55 AM »
Aha!  Thank you!
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Re: Ford Four Speed Shifter
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2019, 05:10:17 PM »
Does anyone remember the name of Bill Healey's web site ?
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Re: Ford Four Speed Shifter
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2019, 10:06:11 PM »
Bill Heeley's site on Ebay is vfmsshop if anyone needs parts or rebuild.
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Re: Ford Four Speed Shifter
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2019, 06:21:10 AM »
Bill Heeley rebuilt the factory shifter in my Shelby. Night and day difference. Functionally perfect. The down side is if you're looking for a concours assembly it won't pass. He doesn't plate, he paints the parts.

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Re: Ford Four Speed Shifter
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2025, 06:13:14 AM »
Am I tired?
I'm trying to install my shifter lever on 4 speed manual on my may65FB Metuchen and logically the rubber should be on the shifter hole with bolt going on thru it. Well, shifter hole as 9mm, bolt has 10mm and need shifter hole with 11mm to put the rubber inside the hole with bolt going thru it.
So, seems that or both shifter holes has the wrong diameter or bolts and rebuild kit rubbers are not correct. What do you think about this?
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Re: Ford Four Speed Shifter
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2025, 11:11:10 AM »
Am I tired?
I'm trying to install my shifter lever on 4 speed manual on my may65FB Metuchen and logically the rubber should be on the shifter hole with bolt going on thru it. Well, shifter hole as 9mm, bolt has 10mm and need shifter hole with 11mm to put the rubber inside the hole with bolt going thru it.
So, seems that or both shifter holes has the wrong diameter or bolts and rebuild kit rubbers are not correct. What do you think about this?
Since the hole ,bolts, etc. should not be metric I would first make sure the bolts fit properly in the shifter control . Maybe a mix up in hardware? New shifter handle or old shifter handle?
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Re: Ford Four Speed Shifter
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2025, 02:39:14 PM »
Am I tired?
I'm trying to install my shifter lever on 4 speed manual on my may65FB Metuchen and logically the rubber should be on the shifter hole with bolt going on thru it. Well, shifter hole as 9mm, bolt has 10mm and need shifter hole with 11mm to put the rubber inside the hole with bolt going thru it.
So, seems that or both shifter holes has the wrong diameter or bolts and rebuild kit rubbers are not correct. What do you think about this?
Do you have the American/English and Metric gauges and tools to verify what you got? Remember this. No metric hardware was used on Mustangs thru 1973.
(I had to have both types of tools an gauges because in the early 1970s I raced VWs.)
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Re: Ford Four Speed Shifter
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2025, 06:38:14 PM »
Hi Jim.
9mm is 23/64 approximately and bolt has 25/64 and to install the rubber on shifter lever with bolt passing thru lever holes should have 28/64.

looking forward to know what is wrong as bolt should not be smaller and shifter lever seems to be hardened and not easy to enlarge holes.

please send photos.

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Re: Ford Four Speed Shifter
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2025, 06:49:30 AM »
Thanks Jim, very kind as usual.
I really need some photos or figure out what is happening why I can't assembly my shifter lever in place with correct rebuild kit (I suppose) with 2 bolts, 2 rubbers and 2 washers.
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