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Offline livetoride60

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Re: 65 Reproduction Valance
« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2017, 10:59:59 PM »
Mine are also oval with a 10/64 build date, SJ car.
'65 K code Fastback, 4sp, San Jose, 10/9/64
'66 C code Coupe, C4, Dearborn, 5/24/66
'67 Fairlane Convertible, 3sp, 200 I6

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Re: 65 Reproduction Valance
« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2017, 12:06:15 AM »
Might be helpful to include the valance stamping date in the survey. Might be important later and its easier to share than go back later. Just a thought
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Re: 65 Reproduction Valance
« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2017, 06:49:33 PM »
I have since learned that as you get into '66 production (at least on the San Jose cars) that you will find that the rear valances have the round, rather than oval holes. As a side note, it usually seems that the valances with the smaller round holes use a smaller head Phillips pan head screw, although I have seen a mix of screws on the same car. It's interesting to note that those smaller head screws would not work well with the larger oval holes.




The above installation also used two different style screws. Note the larger well liner screws behind the bumper guards.

I've also had some earlier NOS service rear valances that have had the oval holes.

Also I have noted that sometimes, none of the screws had any body color paint.

Another thing, on most rear valances with the oval holes, since the screw heads are larger, you cannot tell which type of hole it is when it is installed.



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Re: 65 Reproduction Valance
« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2017, 10:35:35 PM »
I have since learned that as you get into '66 production (at least on the San Jose cars) that you will find that the rear valances have the round, rather than oval holes. As a side note, it usually seems that the valances with the smaller round holes use a smaller head Phillips pan head screw, although I have seen a mix of screws on the same car.


Haven't seen a mix on the same car other than the before and after paint on 66 San Jose cars


The above installation also used two different style screws. Note the larger well liner screws behind the bumper guards.

Normally the painted one and the reason for two different styles of screws on the same car. If you collect enough there appears to be a change over from the screws with integrated washer to pan head style in the Fall period


I've also had some earlier NOS service rear valances that have had the oval holes.

That would likely be period made service replacements


Also I have noted that sometimes, none of the screws had any body color paint.
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What cars would those be?  Though I've found some with the paint knocked off they have always had a shadow behind the screws on an original paint car. Nice pictures

As for the other two plants would be nice to have a larger collection of those for the discussion but it appears with what we have that the styles were more uniform since all the screws got installed at the same station and time. Its just which style screws and the related time periods
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Re: 65 Reproduction Valance
« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2017, 10:31:49 AM »


What cars would those be?  Though I've found some with the paint knocked off they have always had a shadow behind the screws on an original paint car. Nice pictures

As for the other two plants would be nice to have a larger collection of those for the discussion but it appears with what we have that the styles were more uniform since all the screws got installed at the same station and time. Its just which style screws and the related time periods

I've seen these on a handful of original late '65 production San Jose cars that actually still have the original valances...mostly GT350s that I am looking at.

I just point this out to show that it is certainly possible that some cars had screws in the rear valance that were not painted. Same thing with the two different screws in the same valance.

Oh, I also discovered just yesterday after I posted this that some early cars with the oval holes in the rear valance did use the smaller pan head Phillips screws. Here is a picture of my June '64 Dearborn coupe. It has original paint and rear valance has never been removed. So, I guess you can use about any type of screw that you want on these cars, huh? Always discovering something...

Oh, and I guess we should apologize to the OP, because this thread did sure go off topic. That never happens though, right? LOL