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Offline Pete Bush

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Re: Sprint 200 Standard Equipment?
« Reply #30 on: July 22, 2010, 06:43:42 AM »
Found where I made my mistake on decoding the radiator cap at:
http://mustangtek.com/FordDecode.html

A casting number of D6 is not the same thing as 6D. I took both to mean April 1966. While the later date code may mean that, the former (like on my cap) stands for decade of 1970 - year 6, or 1976. A clear replacement.

Just to be clear, places like NPD sell two SMCO radiator caps: #8100-A (a zinc version) and #8100-C (the chrome). We're saying until further information surfaces, the zinc is correct.

The same with the Master Cylinder cap: zinc #2162-2B instead of chrome #2162-2A.

Oil caps seem to be sold with or without FoMoCo script logos, and decals on the top. Any guidance there?

My Sprint was repainted the original Tahoe Turquoise some time in the early 80's and no longer has the "C" pinstripe. Can anyone provide detailed specifications on it's width, setback from the cove indent, and start/stop locations?
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Metuchen - Scheduled May 10th; Built June 21st

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Re: Sprint 200 Standard Equipment?
« Reply #31 on: July 22, 2010, 07:53:59 AM »

The SMCO radiator caps: #8100-A (a zinc version) would be the most correct. Lots of People go with the chrome versions because they don't "Rust up" as fast as the zinc versions, and this is definately true. The zinc version being more correct has a tendency to rust up real fast.

I'll get some original '66 Sprint stripe pics up here, I don't have time now, I'm off to work!

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Re: Sprint 200 Standard Equipment?
« Reply #32 on: July 22, 2010, 09:19:50 AM »
Found where I made my mistake on decoding the radiator cap at:
http://mustangtek.com/FordDecode.html

A casting number of D6 is not the same thing as 6D. I took both to mean April 1966. While the later date code may mean that, the former (like on my cap) stands for decade of 1970 - year 6, or 1976. A clear replacement.


Yep, I made note of this several replies back.  There are many parts that fall into this category.  Glass is one of them.  Usually we can decode them with a high degree of certainty, based on markings and other details.

I recommend a zinc SMCO radiator cap and a zinc-dichromate MC cap that is painted black to match the MC.  The oil filler cap was most likely either a script or block FoMoCo.
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Re: Sprint 200 Standard Equipment?
« Reply #33 on: July 22, 2010, 08:04:04 PM »

As you requested.. Here are a few pics from  New Jersey car that was stored since 1977.  It wears its original paint and striping.  It is a Metuchen Built '66 Sprint, but I have never noticed any differences in stripes between all three plants on Original cars. They were all pretty much the same.  Notice the stripe, It does not sit directly on the "Crown" or contour bend in the fenders or doors.  It sits a little above, or a little below in some areas on the bottom.  See the pics and judge for yourself.  It is a Original Paint car.









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Re: Sprint 200 Standard Equipment?
« Reply #34 on: July 22, 2010, 08:32:12 PM »

If you save and capture the pics above on your harddrive, You can blow them up for better resolution.

How about some more? Here you go...Again, This is an Original car, Original paint. '66 Sprint 200 Dearborn car this time..








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Re: Sprint 200 Standard Equipment?
« Reply #35 on: July 22, 2010, 08:57:26 PM »

Some Original '66 Sprint 200 Engine pics you say?  Why sure!
 Note the Original Fuel pumps...lol..

An Original "stored for decades" Dearborn car.. It is the red car from above..



A 7100 mile "Unrestored" Dearborn '66 Sprint 200..!!!!!!!!



How about a 6000 mile "Unrestored" one???



And a rare San Jose '66 Sprint 200 with smog.. What a treat! (Overflow to the right is not original! lol..)




The truth is out there... You just have to look...really hard!...lol

Pics of anything else?? I'm on a roll tonight...

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Re: Sprint 200 Standard Equipment?
« Reply #36 on: July 22, 2010, 09:04:20 PM »
Nice, Tony!

Looks like the pinstripe starts immediately behind the headlight bucket and ends at the molded edge behind the front wheel. I've seen some that end short of that molded edge - somewhere between it and the Mustang emblem.

It's hard to get a sense of scale, though. Not sure of the pinstripe's thickness, but it seems to vary from about 3 to 4 times it's thickness as it makes it's way around the indent. Would you say the pinstripe is about 1/16" or 3/32" in width?
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Re: Sprint 200 Standard Equipment?
« Reply #37 on: July 22, 2010, 09:10:18 PM »
Hey you slipped some engine pics in while I was typing.

Let's focus on the Master Cylinder cap for a moment. On one car it looks black (as Charles suggested) while on the other it looks like the weathered zinc. The shape almost looks different, too.
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Re: Sprint 200 Standard Equipment?
« Reply #38 on: July 22, 2010, 09:26:31 PM »
Say I just noticed something else. (I'm just full of questions. lol)

Some engine compartments look like they have radiator expansion tanks, while some don't. Mine doesn't. My windshield washer bag hangs there instead. Why the difference?
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Re: Sprint 200 Standard Equipment?
« Reply #39 on: July 22, 2010, 09:39:33 PM »

If you noticed my post above...I commented on how the "Overflow tanks" are not original.
The color of the M/C cap would depend on the supplier of the Master Cylinder. Ford used a few different suppliers. I can think of a few, Kelsey Hayes, Bendix, Lockheed, and even possibly Wagner, but can't confirm that last one 100%. Master cylinders were subcontracted out to other suppliers. I would say that Zinc or Black are acceptable, and they should be made of metal, not plastic! lol.

What the pictures give you is an excellent idea of how your engine should look. These are original cars, unrestored.  Notice the lack of chrome....other than the aircleaner.
That is how they all came.

Other chrome "goodies" were available over the counter and added later by previous owners on most of the cars you see today. (Lots of restored cars)

Take a good look, The pictures are a great glimpse into the past.

Tony K.


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Re: Sprint 200 Standard Equipment?
« Reply #40 on: July 22, 2010, 10:05:57 PM »
The red Dearborn had an expansion tank, too. Both are incorrect, right?
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Metuchen - Scheduled May 10th; Built June 21st

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Re: Sprint 200 Standard Equipment?
« Reply #41 on: July 22, 2010, 10:13:50 PM »
Great pics of original cars. Looks like the stripes go all the way to the breaks of the doors. Mine was done with the paint stopping just short of the openings. I actually lost 1 point at the 2008 MCA National due to this.

Regarding the black oil filler cap....is it supposed to have a decal on top?

If I replace my MC cap, is there any preferred way to leave it.....zink, or should I paint a zink one black?

Thanks again.

Kevin
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Re: Sprint 200 Standard Equipment?
« Reply #42 on: July 22, 2010, 10:58:15 PM »
The only OEM master cylinder I have found on 65-66 drum brakes car is Bendix.  The original cap would have been zinc plated, usually with dichromate coloring.  The cap was then installed on a bare MC body, with rubber plugs to fill the holes.  It was then painted semi-gloss black.  You can see the proper detailing here:

http://www.early-mustang.com/charles/K_vert/10_4_09/10_4_09%20008.jpg
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Re: Sprint 200 Standard Equipment?
« Reply #43 on: July 23, 2010, 06:53:05 AM »
Kevin,

Your magazine article says you took detailed measurements of the pinstripe. Maybe you can share those? Width, and setback from the cove?
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Metuchen - Scheduled May 10th; Built June 21st

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Re: Sprint 200 Standard Equipment?
« Reply #44 on: July 23, 2010, 09:34:55 AM »

"The red Dearborn had an expansion tank, too. Both are incorrect, right?"

Answer: Yes.

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