Topic: Shaker Hood

[Angela]

I wasn't sure whether or not this question should go in the "body paint & sealer" folder. I chose this space because it's really not a paint question.

I'm not very knowledgeable (yet) on the 69/70 cars yet believe that the holes for the shaker assembly were cut into "regular" hoods as opposed to their having been two different hoods. Were the holes cut by factory line employees? Just curious.

My main question is who makes & where can I buy the most correct shaker hood hole template for 1970? I have the same question for the 1970 twist lock hood pins. I have an original rust-free 1970 hood that needs the twist lock holes cut (top side only...bottom side holes exist) and the shaker hole to be cut. If it's true that there is no difference between a "regular" 1970 hood and a shaker hood, then I think I'm far better off cutting the nice hood I have, than paying three arms and four legs for a hood that's already cut.

Finally, can anyone comment on their attempt to graft (weld) two hoods together? I have my original shaker hood, but sadly the from lip is way too far gone to save. I hate to crush that hood, yet saving it would require very serious welding of the front edge of another hood onto my original hood. It's not just the skin that's rotted out, both pieces are gone.

[7Lscjracer]

This guy has been selling the templates on ebay for years:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-70-FORD-MUSTANG-MACH-1-302-351-390-428-SHAKER-HOOD-CUTOUT-ONLY-TEMPLATE-/192029238699?hash=item2cb5d5a5ab:g:rUgAAOSwux5YKKHs&vxp=mtr

I can see the cost of repairing that original rusted hood far exceeding the cost to buy one not needing work:(

[ExportMach]

This guy has been selling the templates on ebay for years:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-70-FORD-MUSTANG-MACH-1-302-351-390-428-SHAKER-HOOD-CUTOUT-ONLY-TEMPLATE-/192029238699?hash=item2cb5d5a5ab:g:rUgAAOSwux5YKKHs&vxp=mtr

I can see the cost of repairing that original rusted hood far exceeding the cost to buy one not needing work:(

Actually, I think there may be a difference between a shaker hood vs a non-shaker hood. Shaker hoods did not come from the factory with the insulation pad attached to the underside. Whereas I am aware of at least the Grande and the Mach 1 models with the Cobra Jet hood scoop being equipped with the under hood pad. That said, if a hood came equipped with the pad there should be several (6-8?) pre-drilled holes along the ribbed section where the large, square, black plastic retainer plate/pins held the pad to the hood.

[7Lscjracer]

I've always thought all hoods had the holes for the insulation retainers.
I did buy that template years ago and it's fine.
I got it laminated then carefully cut out the opening and hole punched the perimeter holes.
It can be taped in place without getting ruined, and is thick enough to trace a line for cutting.
 

[Vcode]

Here's Marcus's article on the 69-70 hoods.
http://anghelrestorations.com/uploads/3/1/7/6/3176630/69_70_hoods_v1.0.pdf

[J_Speegle]

Shaker "pattern" use to be included with NOS hoods when your purchased them from Ford. Never found a good method of reproducing the pattern since it is fairly large compared to the typical 8 1/2 x 11 page

Have never seen a successful and few attempts of piecing together a hood other than replacing the frame or skin.

[Angela]

I notice there are a lot of different templates available for mustang shaker hoods. There are some for ram-air, some for turn-signal scoops and others still that same they're for both. This got me wondering about which hood configurations were offered in 1960-70? Could someone educate me?

Is the hole in the hood different for Mach 1's with ram-air, VS a non-mach with ram air?
Is the hole in the hood different for shaker hoods vs the non-functional hood scoop with the turn-signal lights?
Are all the holes cut into hoods the same, regardless of engine size?

Perhaps a silly question... but I'd still like to learn. Thanks.

[7Lscjracer]

The twist locks are a 70 Mach 1 feature, but the shaker scoop hole is the same size and location for any Mustang so equipped regardless of engine size.
The bolt-on hood scoop just has perimeter mounting stud holes and two rectangular holes with rounded ends for signal lights.
My template shows both scoops, but I just cut it out for shaker after laminating it. (see my previous posts in this thread).
We are fortunate Ford made things all scoops in the same location, have you priced an E body Mopar shaker hood?
Good Lord.

[drummingrocks]

Is the hole in the hood different for Mach 1's with ram-air, VS a non-mach with ram air? 
If a car is optioned with ram air/Shaker, then the hole in the hood is in the same place regardless of engine size or trim level.  The only other difference between a Mach 1 hood and a non-Mach hood would be the cutouts for the hood pins (for a '69 Mach) or twist locks (for a '70 Mach). 

Is the hole in the hood different for shaker hoods vs the non-functional hood scoop with the turn-signal lights? 
Yes, they are completely different.  The shaker hood literally has a large hole cut in the middle of the hood to accommodate the shaker.  The non-ram air hood with scoop with integral turn signals only has holes for mounting studs; there's actually nothing cutout or open underneath the scoop (aside from a few very early '69s that received a sort of pie-cut looking cutout). 

Are all the holes cut into hoods the same, regardless of engine size? 
As far as the Shaker or non-functional hood scoop is concerned, yes.  If a hood was supposed to have holes in it (because it was optioned with the Shaker or with the non-functional scoop), then the holes are located in the same place, whether the car was a big-block or not.  A 428 Shaker hood should drop right onto a 351 Shaker car, and vice versa.  The same goes for hoods with the non-functional hood scoop.

[midlife]

We are fortunate Ford made things all scoops in the same location, have you priced an E body Mopar shaker hood?
Good Lord.

Holy Cow!  A quick Ebay search has a repro 71 Cuda hood for $2680 and a used one for $7950!