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1967 Convenience Safety Group Latch Switch
« on: November 05, 2016, 11:48:25 PM »
On the latch, should the switch be making contact when the door is ajar, or closed?

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Re: 1967 Convenience Safety Group Latch Switch
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2016, 07:39:48 AM »
The switch closes to ground with the door open ..

BTW, a door can not be a jar because a jar is made from glass and has a lid
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Re: 1967 Convenience Safety Group Latch Switch
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2016, 12:18:48 PM »
- a door can not be a jar because a jar is made from glass and has a lid
Finally, some correct information we all can use.
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Re: 1967 Convenience Safety Group Latch Switch
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2016, 02:32:14 PM »
I appreciate the confirmation of my understanding of the wiring diagram. As well as the sarcasm.  ;D
I had to make the angle bracket for the NOS latches for the switches. I wanted to make sure I had them in the right place.

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Re: 1967 Convenience Safety Group Latch Switch
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2016, 09:57:17 PM »
Is this Convenience Safety Group the one on your 67 Shelby? I love to see how it is listed on your Marti report. Would you post it?

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Re: 1967 Convenience Safety Group Latch Switch
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2016, 11:02:54 PM »
 The Marti report for a cougar in 67 doesn't list the group.
8F02R218047-  July 18 1968   Dearborn

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Re: 1967 Convenience Safety Group Latch Switch
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2016, 02:06:12 AM »
I do have it however, I am not sure where it is. My spouse has a habit of picking paperwork up and not paying attention when she's not in the air.

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Re: 1967 Convenience Safety Group Latch Switch
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2016, 08:10:40 PM »
This photo shows the difference between 1967 with and without tab for mounting the door ajar switch as found on 1967-68 Mustang and Standard model Cougar with convenience group, or 1967-68 Mercury Cougar XR7.
Tab with door ajar on the left. Two versions of the latches between 1967-68. One of the lock or latch tabs got longer by 1968.
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Re: 1967 Convenience Safety Group Latch Switch
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2016, 03:52:21 PM »
 The vehicle was void of door latches, fuel tank, dash panels, and wiring. I didn't understand why until long after.
I wound up purchasing a pair of NOS latches, less the switches. I located a pair of switches. I made the bracket from angled aluminum and used body panel adhesive to attach the brackets. They worked out well. Not too easy to come by these days.

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Re: 1967 Convenience Safety Group Latch Switch
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2016, 04:38:56 PM »

I wound up purchasing a pair of NOS latches, less the switches. I located a pair of switches. I made the bracket from angled aluminum and used body panel adhesive to attach the brackets. They worked out well. Not too easy to come by these days.

I wouldn't trust the "glued-in" idea personally.

Cougar XR-7's came by the score with the correct latches...I have seen on a few occasions where incorrect latches (Convenience type) were mistakenly put on Mustangs without the option too. May be hard to find them NOS, true but usable restorable used are out there and even if you only needed the correct bracket, a real easy spot-weld with a mig and you would be set on those NOS ones you already have.
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Re: 1967 Convenience Safety Group Latch Switch
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2016, 01:21:24 AM »
I would have never trusted them either until I saw 800 lbs picked up with automotive construction adhesive.

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Re: 1967 Convenience Safety Group Latch Switch
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2016, 09:38:33 AM »
In converting a normal latch to one with a door ajar bracket many years ago, I drilled and tapped a hole in the latch, ran a flat pan screw through the two parts. and then grinded off the excess screw. Way stronger than gluing and was very easy to do.

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Re: 1967 Convenience Safety Group Latch Switch
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2016, 11:32:15 PM »
Hello.
You do understand what I am using when I mention "glue" correct? It's what Ford assembles sheet metal with when they aren't spot welded.
The tensile strength is over 2500 LBS.  I was able to exactly duplicate the angle bracket that was spot welded to the original latches.
I was originally going to drill and tap them with 2/56. This wound up being the simple way. They won't come off trying to bend them off with duckbill pliers.

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Re: 1967 Convenience Safety Group Latch Switch
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2016, 11:22:38 AM »
Awesome to use 2500 psi glue! You can only achieve that psi as long as both surfaces are perfectly smooth, have no foreign matter, and are clamped at an appropriate pressure. I have seen temperature swings affect the strength of glue bonds as well. Hopefully your tabs won't come off down the road and force you have to go back into the door and redo it. Me, I know my screw will never back out (red loctite) and will hold up as long at the original spot weld.

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