Topic: 67 power steering pump hose clamp

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Im trying to find the right hose clamp for the return line hose to power steering pump, the new looking one is what NPD says is correct and the Whittic #2 clamp is what came with the car are either of these right ? Also what would be the best hose to use for the return line from a concours point of view ?

[67gtasanjose]

May I ask which 67 (from your signature) are you working on? There are differences in early & late versions and your April car is at or around that change-over period.

I would say NPD's clamp is incorrect and the #2 Wittek is correct.

As far as the return hose, the original return hose would have had a single crimp on the collar back near the control valve. NOS ones are usually only found to have a double crimp.

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Thanks for the response Richard, the April 28 build car.  So the Wittek at the pump and was a spring type clamp used at the other end ?

[67gtasanjose]

Thanks for the response Richard, the April 28 build car.  So the Wittek at the pump and was a spring type clamp used at the other end ?

Original hoses would be single crimped at the control valve end (no clamp). Many replacement hoses came with the clamp. NOS replacement hoses were typically double crimped unless you found a very early old stock hose. Very similar double crimp reproduction big block versions are available that do not use the clamp at the bottom.

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Richard, this is what I was trying to get to and its the clamp above identified but also the clamp below this one I posted is one I'm not sure if its correct. One of my other concerns was the hose used in between these two clamps there is no crimp and its a plain length of p/s hose is it possible to replace that with something resembling what was used at the factory?

[Bob Gaines]

Richard, this is what I was trying to get to and its the clamp above identified but also the clamp below this one I posted is one I'm not sure if its correct. One of my other concerns was the hose used in between these two clamps there is no crimp and its a plain length of p/s hose is it possible to replace that with something resembling what was used at the factory?

If you are concerned about nuance details I am puzzled why you would you want to use such a poor example of power steering hose. Blue Dot maKes excellent repros relative to what you now have.

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Bob, I do have the blue dot hoses they sell on my parts shelf, I was hoping to install all of the correct pieces together rather than 1 or 2 at a time. The blue dot parts are of excellent quality.

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Also is the clamp for the return line correct ?

[Bob Gaines]

Also is the clamp for the return line correct ?

My info is based on the fact that so much on the regular Mustang is the same as the Shelby's I work on . With that said the one on the left in your first picture would be my guess.  I say guess because that aspect is different on the Shelby's compared to regular Mustang.  I have seen that one commonly on 68's(Shelby's too for that year) but can't remember if on 67 regular Mustang. The 67 Shelby version had a different hose put on at Ford and a crimp on clamp was used instead. The clamp you have on the hose in the picture is however one I personally have never encountered on a original car and don't think is correct . Hopefully we can get a definitive answer so I don't have to guess next time.

[ruppstang]

I have not seen the clamp picture on a original car either. I think I may have seen it in some of the catalogs.

[67350#1242]

Looks like a 67 Cougar strut rod setup and I don't see a sway bar - what's the story?

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Winner of the chicken dinner, sway bar was out for engine installation and general engine bay maintenance.

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My info is based on the fact that so much on the regular Mustang is the same as the Shelby's I work on . With that said the one on the left in your first picture would be my guess.  I say guess because that aspect is different on the Shelby's compared to regular Mustang.  I have seen that one commonly on 68's(Shelby's too for that year) but can't remember if on 67 regular Mustang. The 67 Shelby version had a different hose added at SA and a crimp on clamp was used instead. The clamp you have on the hose in the picture is however one I personally have never encountered on a original car and don't think is correct . Hopefully we can get a definitive answer so I don't have to guess next time.

Bob, what has been your experience as to what clamp was used ?

[Bob Gaines]

Bob, what has been your experience as to what clamp was used ?

If it were me I would use the solid band one on the left. Like I said I am not 100% sure on a regular 67 Mustang (68/69 for sure) but have seen that style and not the other one in the picture or the one on your hose in the picture.  They are reproduced and sold by NPD I believe among others.

[Bossbill]

My info is based on the fact that so much on the regular Mustang is the same as the Shelby's I work on . With that said the one on the left in your first picture would be my guess.  I say guess because that aspect is different on the Shelby's compared to regular Mustang.  I have seen that one commonly on 68's(Shelby's too for that year) but can't remember if on 67 regular Mustang. The 67 Shelby version had a different hose added at SA and a crimp on clamp was used instead. The clamp you have on the hose in the picture is however one I personally have never encountered on a original car and don't think is correct . Hopefully we can get a definitive answer so I don't have to guess next time.

If I were to guess I suspect they removed the line at the pump and ran a new one to the cooler and from the cooler to the split apart return line. It appears SA used diagonal cutters rather than the normal tool since all of the crimps have a peak, rather than being flat.
Here is a pic of my original return line showing the join at the mid portion of the return.

I have an original to 1967 full size Ford pump which netted me a proper dip stick. It has an April 67 tag and back strap support still attached. The return line was cut by the PO when I bought it and has a crimped clamp as done by Ford.

I suspect if SA did as I mention above, this crimped clamp on a Shelby would also be of the peaked style.