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64 1/2 carpet screw placement
« on: October 06, 2016, 12:33:35 AM »
  hi work on my first 64 1/2 mustang  i am look for where the carpet screw placment is on a 64 1/2 mustang can only find two hole  on the seat riser    pic work too

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Re: 64 1/2 carpet screw placement
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2016, 10:05:59 PM »
 is there 8 screw used to hold down the carpet

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Re: 64 1/2 carpet screw placement
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2016, 10:22:34 PM »
If you have the original seat risers in the car, only use screws that there are holes for.  The most typically seen is 2 per side, but it is not unusual to see 1 per side or sometimes none at all.
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Re: 64 1/2 carpet screw placement
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2016, 01:50:46 AM »
Does your car have a console, or did it have one? You can tell by the additional holes for the console in the drive shaft hump. Carpet with a console only had two screws, usually near the doors. Without a console, a second set near the hump may have been used. The screws only kept the carpet from moving before the seats were installed.
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Re: 64 1/2 carpet screw placement
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2016, 02:06:19 PM »
mine had one on one side and none on the other!!
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Re: 64 1/2 carpet screw placement
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2016, 04:58:23 PM »
Car has no console car had all ready been strip apart and some sheet metal work done at a high school but kid didn't learn much as they but the seat pan in on the wrong sides    now it come to me to fix right   i think i have found two screw hole to the outside of the seat track holes of the car  thank you

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Re: 64 1/2 carpet screw placement
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2016, 01:00:02 AM »
Car has no console car had all ready been strip apart and some sheet metal work done at a high school but kid didn't learn much as they but the seat pan in on the wrong sides    now it come to me to fix right   i think i have found two screw hole to the outside of the seat track holes of the car  thank you

That is not a 64.5 seat riser. Here is a picture of the ones in my 64.5
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Re: 64 1/2 carpet screw placement
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2016, 10:45:07 AM »
I'm not sure if that open seat riser was used throughout the full run of 64.5 (generator) cars?

Maybe the OP needs to post the VIN to determine if it's really a 64.5 car.
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Re: 64 1/2 carpet screw placement
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2016, 04:43:56 PM »
I'm not sure if that open seat riser was used throughout the full run of 64.5 (generator) cars?

As a related note

Looks like the convertibles didn't use the cut outs like the coupes did. Might add to the confusion or understanding

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Re: 64 1/2 carpet screw placement
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2016, 09:04:55 PM »
I've made this statement before Ford didn't make them all alike. We must also remember that there were two different plants rolling them out at that time.

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Re: 64 1/2 carpet screw placement
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2016, 10:25:04 PM »
Car has no console car had all ready been strip apart and some sheet metal work done at a high school but kid didn't learn much as they but the seat pan in on the wrong sides    now it come to me to fix right   i think i have found two screw hole to the outside of the seat track holes of the car  thank you

I noticed my risers went all the way to the floor and had some spot welds fixing the riser to the floor across the front and back. The ones pictured here do not even reach the floor. Is that normal?
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Re: 64 1/2 carpet screw placement
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2016, 10:41:01 PM »
I noticed my risers went all the way to the floor and had some spot welds fixing the riser to the floor across the front and back. The ones pictured here do not even reach the floor. Is that normal?

Originally they were designed and normally installed to be welded (spot welds)  along each side to help reinforce the whole unibody. Not doing so really weakens the over all body
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Re: 64 1/2 carpet screw placement
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2016, 10:53:57 PM »
I've made this statement before Ford didn't make them all alike. We must also remember that there were two different plants rolling them out at that time.

Depends what time period you're referring to.  San Jose didn't come online until late June, early July '64.  Dearborn had been making them since March '64.
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Re: 64 1/2 carpet screw placement
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2016, 10:55:41 PM »
As a related note

Looks like the convertibles didn't use the cut outs like the coupes did. Might add to the confusion or understanding

5F08D1769xx

Difference most likely due to the convertible seat riser being a one piece from side to side and part of the strengthening of the unibody.  Coupes had individual seat risers.
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Re: 64 1/2 carpet screw placement
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2016, 05:07:56 AM »
Difference most likely due to the convertible seat riser being a one piece from side to side and part of the strengthening of the unibody.  Coupes had individual seat risers.
Interesting. As Jeff stated you would think they all would have been spot welded to the floor to give support, especially a convertible. Besides my big ass needs all the structure support I can get when I sit in the seat. :)
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