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Offline Wills70

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1970 Dearborn Trap Door Prop Arm Finish?
« on: September 10, 2016, 11:00:19 AM »
Dearborn car , was this arm bare steel or a zinc phosphate part ? I believe the catch to be a bare steel part.
Thanks Will
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Re: 1970 Dearborn Trap Door Prop Arm Finish?
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2016, 04:35:54 PM »
Here are some examples - appears to be phosphated . May be some variations in the finish of the catch













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Re: 1970 Dearborn Trap Door Prop Arm Finish?
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2016, 10:59:00 AM »
Thanks Jeff, the rod does appears to be a gray phosphate. I will add this  with my  hood latch and shock tower caps for platting.   Will
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Re: 1970 Dearborn Trap Door Prop Arm Finish?
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2016, 04:22:55 PM »
What is that bracket  for? It's in picture 2 and 3, not in picture 1.
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Re: 1970 Dearborn Trap Door Prop Arm Finish?
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2016, 05:43:21 PM »
What is that bracket  for? It's in picture 2 and 3, not in picture 1.

Engages with the round rod /prop rod and holds the trap door in the up position

Owner of car in picture #1 possibly added the fold down option and forgot to include the retainer. (Notice no nutserts in the trunk hinge bracket ;) Sure they wonder why the trap door doesn't stay up like others  cars but then the vast majority of time the trap door is down and maybe never noticed it missing
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Re: 1970 Dearborn Trap Door Prop Arm Finish?
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2016, 12:41:45 PM »
The screws holding the retainer in pictures 2 & 3 appear to be different finises. Or are my eyes playing tricks?
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Re: 1970 Dearborn Trap Door Prop Arm Finish?
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2016, 04:43:01 PM »
The screws holding the retainer in pictures 2 & 3 appear to be different finises. Or are my eyes playing tricks?
The book says -S2, phosphate and oil. No other known application for that screw, 55593-S2, on a 70. It was a -S8 on 67-68 radio brackets.
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Re: 1970 Dearborn Trap Door Prop Arm Finish?
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2016, 09:30:10 PM »
The screws holding the retainer in pictures 2 & 3 appear to be different finises. Or are my eyes playing tricks?

If I recall correctly I've seen a difference depending on assembly plant and when the car was assembled. Will mark this thread so I can do a little research and post the findings when I get time and access
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Re: 1970 Dearborn Trap Door Prop Arm Finish?
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2023, 10:56:56 PM »
TTT.  Jeff, continuation /addition of discussion from elsewhere.

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Looking for verified original fasteners and finish used to secure the prop rod bracket to the chassis. Dearborn 11/15/69.

Assembly manual calls out

Item #3 (C9ZB-6345732) BRACKET - LUGGAGE COMPARTMENT
FRONT ACCESS DOOR PROP ON BODY.
F - (55593-S2) SCREW AND WASHER ASSY - 2 REQD. https://www.amkproducts.com/bulk-fasteners-products/?Product_ID=12487
G - (372881-s2) NUT - 2 REQD. https://www.amkproducts.com/bulk-fasteners-products/?Product_ID=11979

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Re: 1970 Dearborn Trap Door Prop Arm Finish?
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2023, 02:01:51 AM »
TTT.  Jeff, continuation /addition of discussion from elsewhere.

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Looking for verified original fasteners and finish used to secure the prop rod bracket to the chassis. Dearborn 11/15/69.

Assembly manual calls out

Item #3 (C9ZB-6345732) BRACKET - LUGGAGE COMPARTMENT
FRONT ACCESS DOOR PROP ON BODY.
F - (55593-S2) SCREW AND WASHER ASSY - 2 REQD. https://www.amkproducts.com/bulk-fasteners-products/?Product_ID=12487
G - (372881-s2) NUT - 2 REQD. https://www.amkproducts.com/bulk-fasteners-products/?Product_ID=11979

For others this is from a discussion over on the Boss Registry site. Thanks for posting the assembly manual page for this area of discussion.

The attaching hardware called out in assembly manual identifies a J or U nut similar in design (not size) of what was used to attach much of the front end of the car together. With the lip of the panel it would have to be installed on and the distance from the edge of the panel it appears we have identified a mistake on this page of the assembly manual IMHO

Looking I could not find a picture of a fold down sportroof without the sheet metal bracket that attached shown in the pictures above but a posted over on that sit did and his April 70 built car shows the insert nut I recall seeing being used for this application on cars I've seen. Many thanks to him for sharing

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