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Offline Josep

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Radiator Tag number 66 San Jose T code - w/TE, w/o AC, w/o PS
« on: September 03, 2016, 04:32:51 PM »
What should be the radiator tag for my car please..? w/TE, w/o AC, w/o PS

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Josep
1966 Mustang Hardtop 200 Inline 6 - Arcadian Blue - C4 - Thermactor - 6R07T213966 - San Jose projected build date June 11th 1966 - DSO 71
1966 Mustang Convertible 289-2V - Vintage Burgundy - AT PS DB - 6F08C109403 - Dearborn projected build date September 9th 1965 - DSO 36

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Re: Radiator Tag number 66 San Jose T code - w/TE, w/o AC, w/o PS
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2016, 06:47:40 PM »
Max/AMK shows (business that reproduces the soldered on radiator ID tags) shows the C4ZE-Z2 for cars equipped as yours is.

Checked my pictures and I have none of the top tanks from 66 Thermactor cars to check. Checked the MPC and found that in 67 Ford serviced (had available for replacing the original radiator) all of the 6 cylinders with one part number to cut down on inventory for the dealerships/service shops so that is of no help.
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Re: Radiator Tag number 66 San Jose T code - w/TE, w/o AC, w/o PS
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2016, 12:15:14 AM »
So, are you saying the C4ZE-Z2 would be the right one..?

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1966 Mustang Hardtop 200 Inline 6 - Arcadian Blue - C4 - Thermactor - 6R07T213966 - San Jose projected build date June 11th 1966 - DSO 71
1966 Mustang Convertible 289-2V - Vintage Burgundy - AT PS DB - 6F08C109403 - Dearborn projected build date September 9th 1965 - DSO 36

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Re: Radiator Tag number 66 San Jose T code - w/TE, w/o AC, w/o PS
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2016, 07:04:13 PM »
So, are you saying the C4ZE-Z2 would be the right one..?

What I'm sharing is that the guy reproducing the tags believes, based on his homework, that the -Z2 is correct for your application. I could not find anything at this time to support or to question their finding.

Just sharing the process and my current findings for you to base your choice on
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Re: Radiator Tag number 66 San Jose T code - w/TE, w/o AC, w/o PS
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2016, 07:07:42 PM »
Ok Jeff, Thanks.

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1966 Mustang Hardtop 200 Inline 6 - Arcadian Blue - C4 - Thermactor - 6R07T213966 - San Jose projected build date June 11th 1966 - DSO 71
1966 Mustang Convertible 289-2V - Vintage Burgundy - AT PS DB - 6F08C109403 - Dearborn projected build date September 9th 1965 - DSO 36

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Re: Radiator Tag number 66 San Jose T code - w/TE, w/o AC, w/o PS
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2016, 05:38:44 AM »
:P C4ZE-Z2 is for a V8 application, not i6.

Not sure what you plan on using your tongue for, but apparently it isn't telling us what you found would be the correct engineering number for the application  ::)
As for the number I posted guess you should contact Max. Or maybe the website information is different than what I copied



From what I've seen the 1966 i6 radiators (all factory assembly plants) did not use soldiered tags since they were all DEP style radiators installed. ....................

Here is a late 66 San Jose example (subject of this tread) with a Modine  6 cylinder radiator and a soldered on tag as shown like the V8 San Jose examples. In this example an "A2"

www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=12291.msg74730#msg74730








Josep Sorry didn't ask earlier (must have slipped my mind) what transmission does/did you car have. The example above is a non-PS non AC non Thermactor , automatic. So maybe it will be of use for another owner since its not a direct match your your car it appears.  With a projected build date the last week of Jun 66.
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Re: Radiator Tag number 66 San Jose T code - w/TE, w/o AC, w/o PS
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2016, 11:47:55 AM »
Thanks Autolite and Jeff.

Yeah.! that's exactly what I was asking.! The example above you say it's a late 66 San Jose. Then, you mention a build date of jun 65, am I misunderstanding something..? Or maybe you wanted to say late 66 with build date last week of jun 66..?
My car matches with this example, non PS non AC Auto Thermactor (in progress.!)
In this example I also notice that no thermactor is mount in the car.
And also, the hose going from water pump to carb spacer is rubber hose. I've been told that thermactor cars had a steel tube instead of that rubber hose (?)

See my signature for the info required ;) Maybe too many letters to read the info.!

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« Last Edit: September 05, 2016, 11:50:34 AM by Josep »
1966 Mustang Hardtop 200 Inline 6 - Arcadian Blue - C4 - Thermactor - 6R07T213966 - San Jose projected build date June 11th 1966 - DSO 71
1966 Mustang Convertible 289-2V - Vintage Burgundy - AT PS DB - 6F08C109403 - Dearborn projected build date September 9th 1965 - DSO 36

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Re: Radiator Tag number 66 San Jose T code - w/TE, w/o AC, w/o PS
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2016, 02:45:27 PM »
Sorry that is what I get for posting at 2 am

The example is a late 66 (changed my post above)  and without Thermactor. So its possible (accordign to some sources) that it would have had a different soldered on tag. More in response to Autolite's post and observations



Sorry for the confusion and very late posting  ::)
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Re: Radiator Tag number 66 San Jose T code - w/TE, w/o AC, w/o PS
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2016, 02:59:29 PM »
Not a problem Jeff.! All is clear and fine.!

Josep
1966 Mustang Hardtop 200 Inline 6 - Arcadian Blue - C4 - Thermactor - 6R07T213966 - San Jose projected build date June 11th 1966 - DSO 71
1966 Mustang Convertible 289-2V - Vintage Burgundy - AT PS DB - 6F08C109403 - Dearborn projected build date September 9th 1965 - DSO 36

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Re: Radiator Tag number 66 San Jose T code - w/TE, w/o AC, w/o PS
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2016, 03:20:59 PM »
I see from the list that Autolite has posted, that there's one matching tag for my application, but the inconvenience is the tag is for 67.
Radiator tag for 1967 200 models with A/T, without A/C, with smog controls. Tag reads: C7ZE L
So, not the same option for 66 cars..?

Josep
1966 Mustang Hardtop 200 Inline 6 - Arcadian Blue - C4 - Thermactor - 6R07T213966 - San Jose projected build date June 11th 1966 - DSO 71
1966 Mustang Convertible 289-2V - Vintage Burgundy - AT PS DB - 6F08C109403 - Dearborn projected build date September 9th 1965 - DSO 36

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Re: Radiator Tag number 66 San Jose T code - w/TE, w/o AC, w/o PS
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2016, 03:58:35 PM »
No, I haven't, it's a replacement rad.
So I asked for one of those tags, but I see it doesn't worth to look for one because none of the ones seen match my application.
All vendor looks to have those tags for 66 cars, but all I have seen are indeed for V8s, haven't found any for 200 cars with my applications.

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1966 Mustang Hardtop 200 Inline 6 - Arcadian Blue - C4 - Thermactor - 6R07T213966 - San Jose projected build date June 11th 1966 - DSO 71
1966 Mustang Convertible 289-2V - Vintage Burgundy - AT PS DB - 6F08C109403 - Dearborn projected build date September 9th 1965 - DSO 36

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Re: Radiator Tag number 66 San Jose T code - w/TE, w/o AC, w/o PS
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2016, 05:58:49 PM »
....So, not the same option for 66 cars..?

correct - ignore the 67 or any other listing except for things related to your specific details

For the record - have pictures of over 20 Modine style radiators installed in 66 San Jose built 6 cylinders. The one shown above was the clearest and nicest of the bunch (car was very nice also - the reason I posted all the pictures originally in that thread


FYI companies like this below have soldiered tags being "reproduced" that never existed like the C4ZE-H2. I can't say if thats the case for '66 A2 tags or not.

Are you suggesting that the tag in the example is a reproduction. Think some of the confusion comes from reproducers using service replacement documents in an effort to show what was built and installed when they really often list only what Ford suggested to use if an owner needed a new radiator. Unfortunately the early Buildsheets don't carry an identification number for the radiator applications. That would help allot in this case
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Re: Radiator Tag number 66 San Jose T code - w/TE, w/o AC, w/o PS
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2016, 02:29:43 AM »
Finding a W-MO radiator would be the best, but very difficult to find one still in good shape.! Dunno if they can be repaired in that case. Also, as you mention, finding one with the correct date makes ever worse the find.!

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Josep
1966 Mustang Hardtop 200 Inline 6 - Arcadian Blue - C4 - Thermactor - 6R07T213966 - San Jose projected build date June 11th 1966 - DSO 71
1966 Mustang Convertible 289-2V - Vintage Burgundy - AT PS DB - 6F08C109403 - Dearborn projected build date September 9th 1965 - DSO 36

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Re: Radiator Tag number 66 San Jose T code - w/TE, w/o AC, w/o PS
« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2016, 01:28:17 PM »
Here is the tag on my 66 San Jose- Oct 18 65 date - Radiator is date coded 9-65 W-MO- as you would expect for my build date. The tag is C6ZE  G2. My car is a 6 cyl Thermactor - w/o ps and w/o power brake and no AC

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Re: Radiator Tag number 66 San Jose T code - w/TE, w/o AC, w/o PS
« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2016, 02:32:29 PM »
Application is like mine but different year.

Josep
1966 Mustang Hardtop 200 Inline 6 - Arcadian Blue - C4 - Thermactor - 6R07T213966 - San Jose projected build date June 11th 1966 - DSO 71
1966 Mustang Convertible 289-2V - Vintage Burgundy - AT PS DB - 6F08C109403 - Dearborn projected build date September 9th 1965 - DSO 36