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Offline mach1one

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66 Metuchen Heater and Radiator Hoses
« on: August 18, 2016, 06:51:58 PM »
Looking for some help on the correct style heater hoses and radiator hoses for a 4/15/16 BD  Metuchen V8. What appears to be the most common color stripe on the heater hoses and what appears to be the most common clamp style on the Radiator hoses. Thanks Lu

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Re: 66 Metuchen Heater and Radiator Hoses
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2016, 12:47:36 AM »
Looking for some help on the correct style heater hoses and radiator hoses for a 4/15/16 BD  Metuchen V8.

Guess you meant to write 4/15/66

Kevin Marti makes a good reproduction for your purposes with all the markings and logos



What appears to be the most common color stripe on the heater hoses and

Will leave this one to the 65-66 guys. Know I don't have enough pictures of enough samples to provided that sort of help in this instance


what appears to be the most common clamp style on the Radiator hoses. Thanks Lu

Tower clamps were used at both the heater hoses as well as on the radiator hoses  for your time period, application and plant
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Re: 66 Metuchen Heater and Radiator Hoses
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2016, 02:22:00 PM »
SJ is typically white stripe on the Mustang heater hose until shortly after 67 production started. I would suspect the other plants were similar in usage. Hopefully others with specific Dearborn and Metuchen observations will chime in to confirm or not my suspicions .
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Re: 66 Metuchen Heater and Radiator Hoses
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2016, 03:54:19 PM »
Thanks for the input! I did a extensive search on all the forums and found some talk that perhaps in the 2nd half year production that wire style clamps may have been used on radiator hoses and that combined yellow /white even red heater hoses may have been used during that time period. It would be great if original Metuchen car owners could chime in with their observations.

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Re: 66 Metuchen Heater and Radiator Hoses
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2016, 04:02:15 PM »
Thanks for the input! I did a extensive search on all the forums and found some talk that perhaps in the 2nd half year production that wire style clamps may have been used on radiator hoses and that combined yellow /white even red heater hoses may have been used during that time period. It would be great if original Metuchen car owners could chime in with their observations.

Pictures I have of original cars from NJ in 66 have the tower clamps. The wire ones were kind of an experiment (from our understanding) initially at San Jose along with the staples that held them in place to speed installation. Markings on those hoses are different from the ones used with the tower clamps. They were not introduced until about the half way point at San Jose (discussed in other threads) so maybe someone got confused between San Jose and NJ  ::)

None of the cars I have pictures of have original heater hoses or no markings are visible
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Re: 66 Metuchen Heater and Radiator Hoses
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2016, 05:11:44 PM »
This pic is just for reference but I had kept this because it represents an original 1966 Mustang 289 engine compartment. This is one of Bob Perkins cars, a very low milage 66' Mustang. This shows the radiator hoses with wire clamps but I do not know the exact build date or plant. Perhaps this would help folks none the less, once the plant/time period can be unearthed. Maybe others here know this info??
1967 Springtime Yellow Coupe, 289 2v 3spd, Metuchen built, Nov. 17th 66'
1966 Sahara Beige Coupe, 289 2v 3spd, Dearborn built, July 21st 66'
1964 1/2 Pagoda Green Coupe, 260 2v 3spd, Dearborn built, June 30th 64'
1966 GT350 Fastback clone, 289 HiPo, 725cfm Holley, 4spd, SanJose built, Nov 25th 65'

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Re: 66 Metuchen Heater and Radiator Hoses
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2016, 05:13:22 PM »
And, this is from the Virginia Classic Mustang site.. Giving credit where credit is due  ;)
1967 Springtime Yellow Coupe, 289 2v 3spd, Metuchen built, Nov. 17th 66'
1966 Sahara Beige Coupe, 289 2v 3spd, Dearborn built, July 21st 66'
1964 1/2 Pagoda Green Coupe, 260 2v 3spd, Dearborn built, June 30th 64'
1966 GT350 Fastback clone, 289 HiPo, 725cfm Holley, 4spd, SanJose built, Nov 25th 65'

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Re: 66 Metuchen Heater and Radiator Hoses
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2016, 05:22:55 PM »
This pic is just for reference but I had kept this because it represents an original 1966 Mustang 289 engine compartment. This is one of Bob Perkins cars, a very low milage 66' Mustang. This shows the radiator hoses with wire clamps but I do not know the exact build date or plant. Perhaps this would help folks none the less, once the plant/time period can be unearthed. Maybe others here know this info??

Yes - wrong plant (Dearborn plant so doesn't apply to this particular discussion)  and a pretty late car  - 6F07C3802xx ;)

Do have a NJ example from "that" (very similar to the Dearborn example) with wire clamps on radiator hoses but towers on cars likely built just before the wire example. Unfortunately neither is from the time period being asked about  :(
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Re: 66 Metuchen Heater and Radiator Hoses
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2016, 06:30:45 PM »
Sorry bout that. Might be why I saved the pic but couldn't remember the car info.. The coupe I'm restoring next is a Dearborn, July 66' build. Lucky info for me but not this discussion. :-[
1967 Springtime Yellow Coupe, 289 2v 3spd, Metuchen built, Nov. 17th 66'
1966 Sahara Beige Coupe, 289 2v 3spd, Dearborn built, July 21st 66'
1964 1/2 Pagoda Green Coupe, 260 2v 3spd, Dearborn built, June 30th 64'
1966 GT350 Fastback clone, 289 HiPo, 725cfm Holley, 4spd, SanJose built, Nov 25th 65'

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Re: 66 Metuchen Heater and Radiator Hoses
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2016, 06:35:37 PM »
Sorry bout that. Might be why I saved the pic but couldn't remember the car info.. The coupe I'm restoring next is a Dearborn, July 66' build. Lucky info for me but not this discussion. :-[

Positive side is that you can now label those pictures ;)
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Re: 66 Metuchen Heater and Radiator Hoses
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2016, 07:06:54 PM »
From the research I've done it looks like they were using the white stripe. I went with it anyways. I have a Jan build from metuchen. It was my understanding that the wire clamps were only used in SJ  as an experiment like Jeff said and I thought i read somewhere they were used very later in NJ but I could be wrong about that. Here is my completed engine compartment..
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Re: 66 Metuchen Heater and Radiator Hoses
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2016, 07:14:03 PM »
Nice pics. hopefully a later build metuchen owner will chime in. On a different not it appears the manifolds were installed before engine paint

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Re: 66 Metuchen Heater and Radiator Hoses
« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2016, 07:14:31 PM »
- (Dearborn plant so doesn't apply to this particular discussion)  and a pretty late car  - 6F07C3802xx ;)
I also note the spring shield bolts with the nuts in the engine compartment, the later style valve covers and the LH valve cover without the PCV hose to the air cleaner.
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Re: 66 Metuchen Heater and Radiator Hoses
« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2016, 07:50:16 PM »
Nice pics. hopefully a later build metuchen owner will chime in. On a different not it appears the manifolds were installed before engine paint

That is correct on the manifolds. There is usually some overspray near the mounting bolts.
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Re: 66 Metuchen Heater and Radiator Hoses
« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2016, 09:20:45 PM »
It seems that painting a smallblock with the exhaust manifolds on and the subsequent slight engine color overspray on them was typical for a long time .  I have a Ford document describing engine painting procedures for a 70 BOSS 302 engine. It told what was acceptable to be painted and what was not . It said that it was acceptable for overspray on to the exhaust manifolds which indicates they were installed prior to painting.
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