Topic: 65-67 group 22 Autolite Battery Discussion

[ruppstang]

I think that is the same topper with yellow caps and a new label. I am still thinking of having a 67 22F case 3D printed.

[67gtasanjose]

I think that is the same topper with yellow caps and a new label. I am still thinking of having a 67 F22 case 3D printed.

I agree, not quite like original yellow cap batteries and as noted "better" than using a red topper. I was searching for an image of an original to insert in my reply and got interrupted, had to come back several minutes later. I have now edited my previous reply with an image shared in another thread of what is offered as an original example. You will notice that the yellow printing on the original is entirely different than the current NPD yellow cap topper.

[ChrisV289]

But using  a topper is still 3 points off than just using the red top battery itself.

[J_Speegle]

But using  a topper is still 3 points off than just using the red top battery itself.

That's only if you care about those sort of things. Agree that the yellow with the shield is closer in looks slightly than the other options

Still not the "solution" we're looking for

[Bossbill]

(BTW, my OCD has been digging me everytime somebody calls these batteries a "F24" ~geese!)

This F22/24 stuff was started in the SAAC forum. I don't know why.

[67gtasanjose]

Group 22, 24, 27 etc are the base battery size and the -F designated the posts/polarity was reversed, typically for predominantly FORD applications.

[Andre Romein]

Did anyone paint the raised letters of a dummy battery case?

[J_Speegle]

The yellow small letters? They should have been done that way on the original since there has never yet been a reproduction case that you could gut and make look correct for the early cars

The big thread on the subject of early batteries

https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=11756.msg71009#msg71009

[Andre Romein]

I was more thinking off the bigger letters because the case is just black.

[J_Speegle]

I'm unsure if anyone has figured out which batteries had the red lettering and which did not. Both are shown in the other thread. Sure some have touched them up on other ear batteries and guess your looking for the type of paint used that worked or didn't work for others.

Going to move this thread to another area since your not focusing on 64 1/2-65 only in this request. Will move it to the Parts section and merged in with the large earlier thread not mentioned above

[Bob Gaines]

I have had a number of those (pre 68) assemblyline batteries over the years and seen quite a few more on cars . All of the ones that I have come across that hadn't been messed with like on a restored car etc. did not have the AUTOLITE painted in red or evidence to suggest that it had been red. given the later 68 up type that were painted red and more common I assume that is why the inclination to paint the earlier ones red. Not to say that it couldn't of happened from the factory but from the evidence It would be out of the ordinary compared to the typical to be painted red. The small warning label letters were consistently painted yellow.

[Andre Romein]

do you have a picture of a real 65 battery? I'm confused about how it looks

[J_Speegle]

do you have a picture of a real 65 battery? I'm confused about how it looks

Tar top version used in 64 and 65. Not certain (its late) when the change from this version to the bottom one took place. Like other batteries there are those with the AUTOLITE in red on NOS/service replacements  though either version would be difficult to find

[Bossbill]

I now have a large format 3D printer. It has a 12in. X 12in. bed.

To print a battery on a consumer level printer would probably take over a week of print time.
If anything goes wrong you start again.

Small figures around 2" tall can take about an hour. More complex shapes, like an articulating octopus, can take 4 hours.

[Bob Gaines]

Tar top version used in 64 and 65. Not certain (its late) when the change from this version to the bottom one took place. Like other batteries there are those with the AUTOLITE in red on NOS/service replacements  though either version would be difficult to find

I have not come across a 65-67 group 22 that had red caps on the assemblyine. My observations and documentation that I have seen lead me to be believe that they had yellow caps . Red caps indicated the higher capacity heavy duty version . I suspect that if the higher capacity heavy duty version was needed the the group 24F with red caps was used. At least as it relates to Mustang applications. Just my thoughts ,others may have different.