Topic: 67 Grille Area Hardware or Details, Nothing in Osborn Manuals?

[Fastback2013]

Hello Richard,

Not quite sure if I understand it correct, but is it so that the wide molding is held in place together with the small trim molding into the head bucket?
I do not know if it is factory correct, but this is how it was done on my car (and not knowing for sure that it was untouched through all those years).
In attachment 2 pictures of the nut and retainer that came of my car.
Jeroen

[67gtasanjose]

What AMK catalog are you using? I've got the 2005, 2010 and 2014 (their latest and current) AMK catalogs and that part number is not listed.
Again, the terminology you refer to is a "function", not a description. P/N 373265-S2 is a 10-24 stamped hex nut.
Jim

Got this online with a search of AMK 373265 and found this:
https://www.amkproducts.com/bulk3.asp?part=B-14006

Strange thing about my search, I looked this same "search" last night at work using a different search engine and this page did not come up first as it does at home on my tablet (iPad).

Hello Richard,

Not quite sure if I understand it correct, but is it so that the wide molding is held in place together with the small trim molding into the head bucket?
I do not know if it is factory correct, but this is how it was done on my car (and not knowing for sure that it was untouched through all those years).
In attachment 2 pictures of the nut and retainer that came of my car.
Jeroen

No, every indication is that a separate screw & nut (possibly a push-nut) was used at the wide molding to the headlight housing. on a 67-68 Mustang. Illustrations seem to confirm that the same screw "Q" (379557-S101) was used on the face edge of this molding. Two of these three "Q" screws (each side, again 6 in total  for both sides), thread directly into the stone deflector, these screws originally required a sealant  since they are threaded directly into sheet metal. (still talking about the two sscrews positioned parallel with the bumper that are screwed into the stone deflector) The upper screw "Q", threads THROUGH a hole (of the headlight housing) into what is shown as item "AF" (behind the headlight housing/fender extention). I believe item "AF" to be a special, elongated push-nut, not just an ordinary push-nut. If mystery item AF were a "nut", it would not thread the same sheet metal screw ("Q") like the other two, or at least it would have been a different screw used there.(common sense says it would be cross-threaded)

Best "picture" I can aquire with a search of  what I suspect item "AF" to be is a  1/8" Pushnut similar to this one found at AMK:  http://www.amkproducts.com/bulk3.asp?part=B%2D10600

I am somewhat surprised there have not been other restorers chime in by now on what would be the "norm" for this detail. It is a very easily seen item with the hood open.

[ruppstang]

Richard the Q screw and the push nut you pictured are normally what I find in that top position.
Marty

[67gtasanjose]

Richard the Q screw and the push nut you pictured are normally what I find in that top position.
Marty

Thanks Marty.

If anyone can picture the original from theirs, that would help too. This could differ during production of the two years for all I know about it so maybe give production details if known about any contributions of information.

[jwc66k]

Got this online with a search of AMK 373265 and found this:
https://www.amkproducts.com/bulk3.asp?part=B-14006

The nut shown on the above link is a nut and washer assembly type, the nut moves independent of the washer (like the nut that holds seats to the body). P/N 373265-S in the AMK Guide To Ford Fasteners, page 215, is shown as a one piece stamped nut. I'll leave it up to you to resolve this one.
Jim

[67gtasanjose]

The nut shown on the above link is a nut and washer assembly type, the nut moves independent of the washer (like the nut that holds seats to the body). P/N 373265-S in the AMK Guide To Ford Fasteners, page 215, is shown as a one piece stamped nut. I'll leave it up to you to resolve this one.
Jim

Will post what I have found on mine when I get the chance...These nuts were OK, just need refinished. I was missing a few other things I noted (earlier in thread) when taking apart but was hoping to fill the gaps of the Osborn Manual for others who do not have as much original hardware as I do. I too am missing a few other molding nuts but I think I have several examples of those available.

[67gtasanjose]

Re: Attaching Hardware, Grille Horse & Corral. Seems there should be nuts holding this on (looks as though I have no nuts) Could anybody check their nuts and maybe snap a picture? 

[67gta289]

Found these in the 1967 edition of the Ford Body & Collision Parts Catalog, hope they help. John

[67gtasanjose]

Found these in the 1967 edition of the Ford Body & Collision Parts Catalog, hope they help. John

PERFECT!!! That put's the whole thing together and has enough details to fill in several blanks.
My (horse's) nuts are apparently in another sack of parts from when I took the hood latch support out...along with all of the other thin molding parts I haven't seen in a while...Now I know where to go search!

John, If it is possible, can you get another shot of image 1, up a little higher on the page?

[jwc66k]

Keep in mind that the four pictures are service type drawings, not assembly line. They may give you a better idea of what goes where but it is not completely accurate. Example, bolt 359662-S was never used on Mustangs. It's a service replacement. Also note the finish code is absent on all hardware items, it's part of the Ford Locator Code, and that several hardware items are shown as obsolete.
Jim

[67gta289]

The page scanned

[67gtasanjose]

The page scanned

 

[67gta289]

Picture with dimensions from the 1969 Ford Fastener book. Note that this part number was not found in the 1965 or earlier versions that I checked.

[196667Bob]

Thanks for "reviving" this old thread, John. I definitely have something to add.
When this thread was "rolling", it bothered me that no one, including me, had sheet 8105-2 of the 1967 Body Assembly Manual. After this thread finally appeared to "stall", with no definitive resolution, I decided to Post a "Wanted Ad" for the missing sheet. Sometime in late June or early July of 2017, I finally received a response from one of our members that he had an original 1967 Body Assembly Manual that did include page 8105-2, which was dated 07/26/66, and noted that it replaced sheet 8105-2 dated 06/27/66. However, he noted that since the book was 11" x 22", he had no way to scan or copy it. I suggested that he go to Office Depot, or similar place in order to get it scanned. After several days, I received 3 scans, each covering about 1/3 of the whole sheet. I pieced all of the sheets together (which actually came out pretty good), and then scanned the finished product as an 11 x 17. According to the date on the final scan in the Folder on my computer, I have attached a copy of 8105-2, as well as a copy of 8105-3 (which gives part and hardware Part Number information as noted on 8105-2.

I either posted this in some similar subsequent thread, or, more likely, forgot to Post it, which is why I was glad to see it "resurrected".

Interestingly, a coupler of years ago, I came across an earlier version of the 1967 Body Assembly Manual. It, like Osborne's, had no page 8105-2  ; or I should say no page like 8105-2. I say this because in this version (which may be the original first version of the Body Assembly Manual, as the pages are only numbered 1, 2, 3, ... , have only a Section 8xxx at the bottom of the pages, and have no dates other than 1967.

Hope this helps fill in at least some of our questions.

Bob

[J_Speegle]

Nice find Bob- Thanks for the effort