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Offline sgl66

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Re: Is this a factory GT?
« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2016, 09:54:59 PM »
If the car was built in Metuchen, you may also get lucky and find a build sheet taped to the harness behind the gauges and/or in the springs under one of the seats. If you do find one, it would answer most of your questions.
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Re: Is this a factory GT?
« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2016, 11:58:07 PM »
Just like Gray Market vehicles brought into the United States, which require inspection and vin verification, some being issued a riveted aluminum tag I have seen this done in Germany as well. So many of the Ford vins were weak stampings and by the time the engine compartment is primed and painted, it can be difficult to read the vin. Of course we all know that many have the battery side apron replaced because the battery rust them out. Many are rusted out at the top corner of the overlap, even those that were relegated to arid climates.  Being this is before '67. there should be three locations for the vin, if memory serves me correctly.
Left and right front aprons, right side under the fender, and the rear apron under the top edge of the fender.

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Re: Is this a factory GT?
« Reply #17 on: May 14, 2016, 12:09:12 AM »
If the car was built in Metuchen, you may also get lucky and find a build sheet taped to the harness behind the gauges and/or in the springs under one of the seats. If you do find one, it would answer most of your questions.

Interior looks like it has been altered. If it was a factory GT the low profile rally pac would be installed. Also the interior blue looks funny with those colored seats.
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Offline sgl66

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Re: Is this a factory GT?
« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2016, 12:51:51 AM »
Interior looks like it has been altered. If it was a factory GT the low profile rally pac would be installed. Also the interior blue looks funny with those colored seats.
Rally pac was an option, not a standard GT piece from the factory.
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Offline Josep

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Re: Is this a factory GT?
« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2016, 02:00:11 AM »
OK guys, thanks for your advices and comments. I will speak with my friend and explain what you all said.
Let's see what we find..

Josep
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Re: Is this a factory GT?
« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2016, 11:20:45 AM »
FYI, this is a buck tag.  This particular one is on my GT and you will note the PIO on the buck tag as was previously eluded to. Hope this helps...

I would caution that the presence of this tag does not make it a GT and the absence of it does does not mean it's not a GT.  As others have said, there are a bunch of things that have to be noted to make sure it's a GT.

Allen
« Last Edit: May 14, 2016, 11:35:03 AM by Turnall »

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Re: Is this a factory GT?
« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2016, 11:53:21 AM »
FYI, this is a buck tag.  This particular one is on my GT and you will note the PIO on the buck tag as was previously eluded to. Hope this helps...

I would caution that the presence of this tag does not make it a GT and the absence of it does does not mean it's not a GT.  As others have said, there are a bunch of things that have to be noted to make sure it's a GT.

Allen

Hi Allen - you should post the picture in the NJ buck tag retaining screw thread as well - http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=13681.0


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Re: Is this a factory GT?
« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2016, 12:04:24 PM »
Hi Allen - you should post the picture in the NJ buck tag retaining screw thread as well - http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=13681.0


Ron

Done.

Edit:  Because I can't spell my own name correctly...

Allen
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Offline Josep

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Re: Is this a factory GT?
« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2016, 02:50:38 PM »
Allen, yours it's a completely different buck tag from the one I've posed.
The one I showed here looks absolutely home-made.! But will investigate more.!

Josep
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1966 Mustang Convertible 289-2V - Vintage Burgundy - AT PS DB - 6F08C109403 - Dearborn projected build date September 9th 1965 - DSO 36

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Re: Is this a factory GT?
« Reply #24 on: May 14, 2016, 03:03:37 PM »
Allen, yours it's a completely different buck tag from the one I've posed.
The one I showed here looks absolutely home-made.! But will investigate more.!

That's Allen's point. The tag you showed is NOT a buck tag. The one you showed is a piece of scrap metal with a VIN number stamped into it, covering the car's actual VIN number. It may have been done because the original stamping was damaged or not legible. Or it may have been done to perpetrate a fraud. Either way, the car did NOT come from Ford with that tag on it.
Dave Z.

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Re: Is this a factory GT?
« Reply #25 on: May 14, 2016, 03:08:47 PM »
+1. Completely agree with you Dave.!
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Re: Is this a factory GT?
« Reply #26 on: May 14, 2016, 03:15:22 PM »
+1. Completely agree with you Dave.!

The worst-case scenario is that your friend purchased a stolen vehicle. It would be in his best interest to drill out the rivets and see what's underneath that tag (no harm is doing that, since the tag is not original). If the original VIN number has been altered or damaged, then the next step would be to look under the fenders as others have suggested. The GT/not GT issue is relatively unimportant compared to the possibility of possessing stolen property.
Dave Z.

'68 fastback, S-code + C6. Special Paint (Rainbow promotion), DSO 710784. Actual build date 2/7/1968, San Jose.
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Re: Is this a factory GT?
« Reply #27 on: May 14, 2016, 03:26:52 PM »
I will suggest my friend to inspect underneath the tag.
Documents are OK here but... who knows...

Josep
1966 Mustang Hardtop 200 Inline 6 - Arcadian Blue - C4 - Thermactor - 6R07T213966 - San Jose projected build date June 11th 1966 - DSO 71
1966 Mustang Convertible 289-2V - Vintage Burgundy - AT PS DB - 6F08C109403 - Dearborn projected build date September 9th 1965 - DSO 36

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Re: Is this a factory GT?
« Reply #28 on: May 14, 2016, 04:32:15 PM »

Yeah Josep....Lots of RED FLAGS with that car.  That riveted tag needs to come off to see what is stamped underneath it.  Who knows....The car could be stolen!!

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Re: Is this a factory GT?
« Reply #29 on: May 14, 2016, 04:37:09 PM »
As stated earlier interior colors are way off, could be picture quality. Deluxe interior had carpet on the kick panels these do not. Does not mean it isn't a GT but with the off colors and the missing carpet I'd question the Pony/deluxe option.
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