Author Topic: Opinions on this 1965 Mustang GT 2+2  (Read 4314 times)

Offline ChrisV289

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Re: Opinions on this 1965 Mustang GT 2+2
« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2016, 03:40:44 PM »

Hi Chris, is the data plate of the workshop that made the restoration job. See photo attached.

That's interesting, is it me or is there another hose attached to the air cleaner in the back?
Chris
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Offline rocket289k

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Re: Opinions on this 1965 Mustang GT 2+2
« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2016, 04:50:06 PM »
The C4ZE- tag displayed is not correct for any 64-66 Dearborn/Metuchen factory assembly line installed radiators.



That is incorrect. A C4ZE M2 radiator tag is correct for a 1965 or 1966 with a 260 or 289 engine equipped with factory A/C.  The tags do not appear on all Mustangs and Cougars.  They were a vendor specific item on cars built between 1965 and 1969. Having said that I have normally seen the tag on the passenger side of the rad.  I cannot comment if the tags can appear on either side of the rad (passenger or drivers side).

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Ron
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1965 "A" Code 289 Mustang GT - Planned Build Date July 19 / Bucked July 21 Metuchen / Factory AC & PS / C4 Auto / 3.00 open

Offline J_Speegle

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Re: Opinions on this 1965 Mustang GT 2+2
« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2016, 05:08:01 PM »
The C4ZE- tag displayed is not correct for any 64-66 Dearborn/Metuchen factory assembly line installed radiators.

Just looks like another item that was purchased and placed on the car/radiator

The tag would not be used on a radiator used at any plant during that build period
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Offline rocket289k

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Re: Opinions on this 1965 Mustang GT 2+2
« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2016, 05:20:54 PM »
Just looks like another item that was purchased and placed on the car/radiator

The tag would not be used on a radiator used at any plant during that build period

Hi Jeff - Are you basing that on the VIN 5F09A748576 and therefore the approximate date range / time period (approx June 1965) that car could been assembled in Dearborn?  Is there a block of time that no plants used a rad supplier that did use the radiator tags (since the tags were vendor specific)? 

My July 1965 Metuchen built GT with factory AC (as validated by buck tag and build sheet) has a C4ZE M2 rad tag on the radiator (on the passenger side).  My radiator gave all appearances of being original to the car (all hardware, fan shroud and brackets etc. were intact, there were no competing truth marks from the fastners and everything was consistent with factory installation). 

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Re: Opinions on this 1965 Mustang GT 2+2
« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2016, 05:50:07 PM »
Hi Jeff - Are you basing that on the VIN 5F09A748576 and therefore the approximate date range / time period (approx June 1965) that car could been assembled in Dearborn?  Is there a block of time that no plants used a rad supplier that did use the radiator tags (since the tags were vendor specific)? 

Yes since its a Dearborn built 65 I would not expect to see the usage of the soldered on label/tag on the strap


My July 1965 Metuchen built GT with factory AC (as validated by buck tag and build sheet) has a C4ZE M2 rad tag on the radiator (on the passenger side).  My radiator gave all appearances of being original to the car (all hardware, fan shroud and brackets etc. were intact, there were no competing truth marks from the fastners and everything was consistent with factory installation). 

Think this might be a good reason to start a new thread discussing 65-66 NJ original radiator applications and when and/or if that style of tag can be documented on a fair number of original examples.  Discussing it here will assure we get off thread ;)
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Re: Opinions on this 1965 Mustang GT 2+2
« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2016, 10:27:00 PM »
Yes since its a Dearborn built 65 I would not expect to see the usage of the soldered on label/tag on the strap


Think this might be a good reason to start a new thread discussing 65-66 NJ original radiator applications and when and/or if that style of tag can be documented on a fair number of original examples.  Discussing it here will assure we get off thread ;)

Good idea Jeff - new thread started - http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=13562.0

Ron
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