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Offline Fvike

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Paint types for blackout hood and interior
« on: February 18, 2016, 05:59:29 PM »
I'm from Norway, and I'm about to order me some paint over at AutoColorLibrary for the hood blackout and interior (lower dash) for my '69 Mustang. On the AutoColorLibrary website; there are the choices of Acrylic Enamel, Acrylic Urethane and Acrylic Lacquer. I asked my painter about what I should buy, and he told me he had no idea. He called PPG Norway that told him that the US paint system was much more complicated then the European one. And, of course, there are no conversion tables or databases. So can anyone enlighten me, and tell me what the differences between the paint types are, and what was used originally? And is it still the best choice today?

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Re: Paint types for blackout hood and interior
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2016, 12:26:24 AM »
Enamel is what was original used for exterior body colors.  It sprays out rather well with good coverage. I have not used the Urethanes. Laquer sprays very thin and is more likely to run. It will usually take several coats to cover. On the dash, youcan use it over a good primer coat.

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Re: Paint types for blackout hood and interior
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2016, 10:23:50 AM »
Gotta remember interior isn't painted black, if you have 'black' interior. ;)

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Re: Paint types for blackout hood and interior
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2016, 02:01:48 PM »
Thanks for the answer, Coralsnake.

Gotta remember interior isn't painted black, if you have 'black' interior. ;)

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I was thinking to order the 32651 Charcoal black. Is this the wrong color?

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Re: Paint types for blackout hood and interior
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2016, 07:25:49 PM »
PPG interior colors for 1969.
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Re: Paint types for blackout hood and interior
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2016, 09:05:54 PM »
I was thinking to order the 32651 Charcoal black. Is this the wrong color?

Guessing that is AutoColorLibrary's in house paint numbering system?

Plenty of earlier threads related to the color and original code.
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Re: Paint types for blackout hood and interior
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2016, 09:15:02 PM »
Per the chart, 32651 is flat Charcoal Black, used on the package tray molding and lower crash pad extensions. 32586 is Charcoal Black Poly used everywhere else. Both are PPG numbers.
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'68 fastback, S-code + C6. Special Paint (Rainbow promotion), DSO 710784. Actual build date 2/7/1968, San Jose.
'69 Cougar convertible, 351W-2V + FMX, Meadowlark Yellow.

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Re: Paint types for blackout hood and interior
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2016, 05:46:24 AM »
Per the chart, 32651 is flat Charcoal Black, used on the package tray molding and lower crash pad extensions. 32586 is Charcoal Black Poly used everywhere else. Both are PPG numbers.

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Re: Paint types for blackout hood and interior
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2016, 12:31:44 PM »
I should probably clarify my statement to prevent any misunderstandings. When I said "everywhere else" I meant all of the individual pieces as listed on the chart, NOT all of interior sheet metal!  ;)
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Re: Paint types for blackout hood and interior
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2016, 05:39:23 PM »
What exactly is the sport deck they refer to in the chart? I'm guessing the rear seat area with the rear seat folded down?

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Re: Paint types for blackout hood and interior
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2016, 06:30:25 PM »
What exactly is the sport deck they refer to in the chart? I'm guessing the rear seat area with the rear seat folded down?

In the chart the reference to the painting of brackets and coverings for "sport deck" is in reference to fold down cars. There is a thin trim bar and two (one at each end) caps that is painted the flatter version of the Dark Charcoal Metallic. If you have a fold down - disregard those items

That chart and other paint info is available in the Library section of this site also
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Re: Paint types for blackout hood and interior
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2016, 11:57:04 AM »
Did I miss something...what is the answer on the Blackout hood paint? I'd like to get close to flat but something that doesn't require high maintenance.

Also, the lower crash pads that were mentioned.....are those the slanted vertical (plastic) pieces (4 in total)? I thought those were interior black along with all the other plastic pieces?

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Re: Paint types for blackout hood and interior
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2016, 06:26:55 PM »
Did I miss something...what is the answer on the Blackout hood paint? I'd like to get close to flat but something that doesn't require high maintenance.

Have no idea other than products that look and act like original products. Suggest that you purchase (if in the US and its legal to get) the factory style hood black out (69 not 70) that is available through TCP/AutoColorLibrary. In other country's there are some products others have found as a good replacement but have no experience with them. As for requiring high maintenance I think it depends on how the car is stored and used. Given how we treat these cars today I don't see any issues with PPG products as long as you keep the wax off of the black (not a big deal to clean it)/ Anything you put on the black with have IMHO its positive and negative elements



Also, the lower crash pads that were mentioned.....are those the slanted vertical (plastic) pieces (4 in total)? I thought those were interior black along with all the other plastic pieces?

They are listed (along with a couple of other pieces if the car is a non-fold down fastback) and finished slightly different according to the period charts. To me they appear to be a flatter finish than the other panels and pieces. The chart is also available with other charts in the Library section of this site
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Re: Paint types for blackout hood and interior
« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2016, 02:05:43 PM »
Does hood paint still exist like in the video at the 1:13 mark?


That is pretty flat.....almost looks original. Or is that not practical there days?

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Re: Paint types for blackout hood and interior
« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2016, 02:08:13 PM »
Here are screenshots....
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