Topic: 67 390 - engine painting

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Well its been a couple of weeks now and a dozen calls in and around the Philadelphia region and the word is even from PPG in Ohio that PPG brand DAR paints are unavailable, only what's left at distributors inventory's. Can anyone provide a contact for someone who may have this paint and related products, thanks Paul.

[1967 eight barrel]

English Color
972-647-1133 Ask for Joe. If they won't ship it, contact me via PM. We'll discuss how to get it to you.

                                                                                           -Keith

[1967 eight barrel]

Here is another possibility. NPD offers PPG13358 in catalyzed spray cans.  Part number: AP-EB.  12oz can runs 13.50.
You can clear over the paint.

                                                                                 -Keith

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I'm getting parts back on my 67 Dearborn 390 after cleaning to prep for painting. There are pics and discussion about the PCV and related parts but there are a few questions I have  about other areas.  Does the gulp valve mounting bracket get painted blue ?  Does the harmonic balancer get blue paint or installed after blue paint and does the balancer get painted black ?  I'm guessing that the crab mounting pad and crab studs were masked off. IIRC the thermactor pump mounting bracket is installed before paint.  Fuel pump is not installed for engine paint. I don't know if the oil filter adaptor is or is not installed for painting. Should the timing pointer and attaching screws be painted ?  Water pump bypass and clamps do get painted. Does the brake booster hard line from the manifold get painted ? I realize that the manifold fitting for this does not get blue paint. I will try to post some pics of where I'm at now.

[J_Speegle]

"I'm getting parts back on my 67 Dearborn 390 after cleaning to prep for painting."

1- Does the gulp valve mounting bracket get painted blue ?  - No

2- Does the harmonic balancer get blue paint or installed after blue paint and does the balancer get painted black ? - Not certain for a 67 but believe black - added after engine was painted

3- I'm guessing that the crab mounting pad and crab studs were masked off. - Since it uses the bakolite plate yes I believe there was a mask placed over the mounting face and studs. Do have paint on those surfaces on a 68 but can't tell if it has been rebuilt/repainted before

4- IIRC the thermactor pump mounting bracket is installed before paint.  - Yes the Y shaped on at the back of the pump that attaches to the head

5- Fuel pump is not installed for engine paint. - Mask placed over the hole/mounting surface

6- I don't know if the oil filter adaptor is or is not installed for painting.  = Installed after

7- Should the timing pointer and attaching screws be painted ?  - Yes

8- Water pump bypass and clamps do get painted. - Yes

9- Does the brake booster hard line from the manifold get painted ? - No vacuum block its mounted to is not painted

Hope this helps

[Bob Gaines]

I'm getting parts back on my 67 Dearborn 390 after cleaning to prep for painting. There are pics and discussion about the PCV and related parts but there are a few questions I have  about other areas.  Does the gulp valve mounting bracket get painted blue ?  Does the harmonic balancer get blue paint or installed after blue paint and does the balancer get painted black ?  I'm guessing that the crab mounting pad and crab studs were masked off. IIRC the thermactor pump mounting bracket is installed before paint.  Fuel pump is not installed for engine paint. I don't know if the oil filter adaptor is or is not installed for painting. Should the timing pointer and attaching screws be painted ?  Water pump bypass and clamps do get painted. Does the brake booster hard line from the manifold get painted ? I realize that the manifold fitting for this does not get blue paint. I will try to post some pics of where I'm at now.

To help fill in some blanks. Crank shaft sleeve was on but typically only painted near timing cover with paint deminishing towards the forward edge. Balancer is added later and is black. fuel pump gasket is white before unpainted fuel pump. Black oil filter adapter gasket before unpainted adapter.

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Thanks Jeff and Bob, what would be the correct finish for the gulp valve bracket ? And if the bracket is installed after engine paint then the attaching bolts  for the bracket and the valve would be P&O ?  Was the dip stick tube also installed before paint ?  Im not sure if anything is installed for the A/C system, to get engine blue. I believe all of the A/C mounting parts are semi gloss black.

[J_Speegle]

Thanks Jeff and Bob, what would be the correct finish for the gulp valve bracket ? And if the bracket is installed after engine paint then the attaching bolts  for the bracket and the valve would be P&O ?  Was the dip stick tube also installed before paint ?

Dip stick tube installed before engine was painted

Gulp valve mount semi-gloss black. Attaching bolts are P & O (very short castle headed bolts). Valve it self is coated main aluminum (a greenish/gold like carburetor main body) and a zinc dichromate lid/top

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Are there any a/c mounting brackets installed before paint ?

[J_Speegle]

Are there any a/c mounting brackets installed before paint ?

No those were added at the plant that year from my understanding

[Bob Gaines]

No those were added at the plant that year from my understanding

+1 on that understanding.

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One more detail is the water pump hub masked or painted blue ?  Also what would the engine lift brackets look like ?

[J_Speegle]

One more detail is the water pump hub masked or painted blue ? ....

Mask placed over the pulley hub before painting - left unpainted

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Thanks Jeff, am I remembering correctly that no gaskets are used for the exhaust manifolds.    Engine lift hooks blue ?

[J_Speegle]

Thanks Jeff, am I remembering correctly that no gaskets are used for the exhaust manifolds.    Engine lift hooks blue ?

Yes - no gaskets were used between heads and exhaust manifolds. Factory documents mention a thin coat of graphite was used between the two

Engine hooks would be a blue. On other engines the blue is often slightly different - as if they were supplied all ready painted