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C7GB part identification
« on: January 04, 2016, 06:29:21 PM »
Is it possible for someone to ID this part C7GB-14289-A should be a engine gauge harness just not sure of application,  thanks Paul.
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Re: C7GB part identification
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2016, 07:20:33 PM »
Is it possible for someone to ID this part C7GB-14289-A should be a engine gauge harness just not sure of application,  thanks Paul.

Looks like it was used on Mustangs for the Ford Dash to Engine Feed
Used according to a 4/68 MPC to service big block engine applications (390).

Don't have the book but likely a Cougar application also
« Last Edit: January 04, 2016, 07:59:08 PM by J_Speegle »
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Re: C7GB part identification
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2016, 07:54:20 PM »
The January 67 MPC lists mustang with 390.
« Last Edit: January 04, 2016, 07:57:23 PM by 67gta289 »
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Re: C7GB part identification
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2016, 08:00:06 PM »
Thanks John - took another look and corrected my earlier post
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Re: C7GB part identification
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2016, 08:12:07 PM »
No problem, glad to help out once in a while. 

I did a search and this is the one, and only, C7G* part in the Jan 67 manual.  Perhaps the G represents a Mercury (W = Cougar, correct?) and they found cross applicability to the 390 Mustang.  It is strange that there is only one though.  As Jim would say we are talking about Ford after all...where nothing is consistent or perfect.
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Re: C7GB part identification
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2016, 08:55:56 PM »
The "G" indicates Comet design. My 65 GT uses a C5GF-12127-A distributor which was also used in 66 for non-smog "A" code engines. It's a common practice by Ford.
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Re: C7GB part identification
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2016, 09:24:17 PM »
Thanks Jim.  I'm a bit surprised that the part number for something like this would have been associated with the Comet, and not the Ford variant Falcon, unless the Falcon version was too short for the Comet application and they needed a modified part.  I think we would agree that the majority of parts common across multiple car lines would be linked to a Ford car, not Mercury, with the most common probably being the "A" body full size Ford (C7A...)

While re-use of parts is common practice, I would stick to my comment that in this specific C7G example, being one of one, is uncommon, strange, odd.
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Re: C7GB part identification
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2016, 10:10:18 PM »
Not totally for sure where I read it, but some of these "Ford" parts that fit multiple vehicles were assigned to different car lines as a way to distribute the design costs, for cost accounting purposes.

As was mentioned above, distributors as well as carburetors came from different (non-Mustang) parts bins in the 1960's. 
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Re: C7GB part identification
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2016, 10:40:29 PM »
This is indeed an interesting part, from what I have found G being comet 1961 to 67 and B being from design engineering office-body and electrical product division. I received this part number from victor Yarberry in new mexico who believes this is the correct harness for a 67 390 cougar and not the current repop of the 67-68 mustang cougar gauge harness C7ZZ-14289-D. This may lead to a new 67 390 harness to reproduced. I also saw in the above MPC example there is a part number for F being a cougar and a 6 cylinder application, no cougar ever came with a 6.
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Re: C7GB part identification
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2016, 11:27:59 PM »
From the '75 edition of the 65-72 L-M (Lincoln-Mercury) MPC. A number of C_GB feeds, and a bunch of crossover part numbers between Ford and L-M. C7GB-A serviced by C7ZZ-A, as discussed. D0GB-E serviced by D0AZ-B, several other examples in the list. 1970 and up the feeds were mostly Ford, Fairlane, and Mustang.
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Re: C7GB part identification
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2016, 02:23:07 PM »
This is indeed an interesting part, from what I have found G being comet 1961 to 67 and B being from design engineering office-body and electrical product division. I received this part number from victor Yarberry in new mexico who believes this is the correct harness for a 67 390 cougar and not the current repop of the 67-68 mustang cougar gauge harness C7ZZ-14289-D. This may lead to a new 67 390 harness to reproduced. I also saw in the above MPC example there is a part number for F being a cougar and a 6 cylinder application, no cougar ever came with a 6.

Vic Yarberry has been researching and reproducing alternator wiring harnesses from NOS and documented used examples for Cougars and Mustangs. Nice products, he has most V8 engine examples (non-thermactor) 1967-71. I have suggested that he find and reproduce the 390/428CJ thermactor versions.
http://www.thuntek.net/cougars_unlimited/
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Re: C7GB part identification
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2016, 04:21:39 PM »
Vic Yarberry has been researching and reproducing alternator wiring harnesses from NOS and documented used examples for Cougars and Mustangs. Nice products, he has most V8 engine examples (non-thermactor) 1967-71. I have suggested that he find and reproduce the 390/428CJ thermactor versions.
http://www.thuntek.net/cougars_unlimited/

While off on the rabbit trail of ALTERNATOR harnesses, I haven't been convinced yet the Alloy Metals 289 Mustang tach type matches up to original examples (or w/o ammeter for Cougar applications) Any word on THOSE harnesses Scott?
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Re: C7GB part identification
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2016, 06:19:17 PM »
The black and green wire harness is what Vic and myself believe to be the C7GB part, the other is the current reproduction for 67-68 390's. Does anyone recognize this from a Dearborn built 67 390 mustang ?
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Re: C7GB part identification
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2016, 10:24:05 PM »
While off on the rabbit trail of ALTERNATOR harnesses, I haven't been convinced yet the Alloy Metals 289 Mustang tach type matches up to original examples (or w/o ammeter for Cougar applications) Any word on THOSE harnesses Scott?

I'm sorry, we were previously talking about your alternator harness. Then you mention Vic Yarberry, and I, well you know. Doh!
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Re: C7GB part identification
« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2016, 03:29:54 AM »
The black and green wire harness is what Vic and myself believe to be the C7GB part, the other is the current reproduction for 67-68 390's. Does anyone recognize this from a Dearborn built 67 390 mustang ?
Shouldn't it have a flat tab for the oil pressure sender if a 67 part? Was there a different part for gauge vs idiot light?
« Last Edit: January 06, 2016, 03:35:52 AM by bazza »
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