Topic: 67-68 Interior mirror changes

[bazza]

I know there were a lot of changes through the 67 model year.
Was 68 sun visor bracket and stickon rear view mirror one of them?? My 67 has 68 visor bracket and it looks like its original to the car.

[ruppstang]

I am not aware of any 67s that used the 68 style of mirror bracket. What is the build date of your car and what assembly plant was it built in?
Marty

[bazza]

Its in my signature. Probably last day of production.
Marti confirms date.
Thanks

[ruppstang]

Sorry about that I missed it.
Are you the original owner or do you have any documentation that the mirror is original? Is there any thing else unusual about the car?

[bazza]

The mirror is long gone, but if the visor bracket is original, I assume a 68 mirror is correct.
I have been wrong before tho.
I have owned the car since 2010. I've sorta finished my 65 convertible restomod, so I'm getting started on this one.
Gunna try for closer to original on the 67. What a learning curve!!

[WT8095]

The 68 visor bracket used two screws. The 67 mirror/visor bracket used three. If you have access above the headliner, the number of screw holes in the sheet metal should be a clue.

[bazza]

Looks like the original headliner.
Not sure if the pics will post.
Looks like 1 hole has never had a screw in it

[WT8095]

In your last photo, there is a metal tab or bracket screwed to the roof structure. Check that bracket for the third hole. It would be on centerline, farther from the windshield than the other two screws. See the upper right corner in this photo from WCCC.

If the hole is there, it would be helpful if you could post a nice photo of the bracket, as this topic has come up a couple of times and photos seem to be hard to come by.

[bazza]

Is this what you wanted of the bracket? If not, I can take a pic once I remove the roof console.... which wont be anytime soon.   
I think I can assume this car has never had a 67 mirror, so 68 parts are correct. Anyone agree???
 WT8095, when you say, "this topic has come up a couple of times", are you referring to the use of 68 parts, or something to do with the bracket??

[ruppstang]

It appears that the 68 bracket is original. Be sure to keep these pictures as documentation in case you ever have the car judged.

[WT8095]

WT8095, when you say, "this topic has come up a couple of times", are you referring to the use of 68 parts, or something to do with the bracket??

Sorry, I was referring to general discussion of the variety of mirrors and brackets used in '67. There was one thread in which someone posted a photo of the center sheet metal bracket, but the photo was a wide-angle view and not very high resolution, so it was difficult to see what was going on. I have not run across any previous discussion of '68-style brackets being used in '67.

I'm certainly no expert on 67s, but the circumstantial evidence suggests your 68-style brackets are original as Marty assessed. The general condition of the headliner, visor bracket, visors, and roof console suggest they are all of a similar age and likely original. That leaves four possible explanations I can think of, in order of decreasing liklihood:

• '68-style brackets were installed at the factory.
• '67-stye brackets were originally installed, but the factory missed drilling the third hole, and '68-style parts and a new headliner were installed at a later date.
• '67-stye brackets were originally installed and the bracket was drilled, but a replacement bracket without a hole was installed later, along with '68-style parts and a new headliner.
• Your car is really a '68. 

[GT500KR]

• Your car is really a '68. 

 Interesting,
 
   According to the Mustang Production Guide, the last recorded (submitted) Dearborn 67 Mustang built at Dearborn is VIN 7F02S232939 with a scheduled build date of 11V, August 11th. Earliest recorded 68 build is 8F03C100479 with a 14H August 14th build date. As has been discussed often and supported by Marti Reports, scheduled, and actual production dates are often different.

   Not saying it's not a 67, but if it is, it's a very late car. Where did you find your August 17 date? Has it got a 67 serial door tag?[/list]

[WT8095]

I came up with one more possibility: the overhead console was added, and the bracket is covering the original third hole (or the third hole was on the bracket that the console one replaced - sorry, I don't know as much about 67s as I do on 68s). Looking back at your photos, it seems like the two wider-spaced holes are in about the right spot for a '67 bracket. The "middle" hole looks really sloppy due to the way it hits the sheetmetal bracket, and results in an off-center hole pattern. I would try gently running a screw into that third hole to see if it's really threaded or not.

Regardless of which bracket was originally installed, your build date is very interesting in light of the info GT500KR posted.

[ruppstang]

I think more pictures of this car are warranted. Also more investigation in the build date as suggested above. 

[bazza]

The 67 has a scheduled build date of 11V, August 11th.
Marti report confirms the roof console and the actual build date of August 17. 7F02S232917
Coupla pieces of trivia I have found, Dearborn production ended last, and the last car in each plant was an S code.
Its a shame that the engine bay has been changed over its lifetime, I'm sure a lot of details have been lost. The rest of the car is fairly untouched, except for paint and exhaust.