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Offline E35Pilot

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Need help identifying correct snorkel for 68 390
« on: October 20, 2015, 06:56:34 PM »
While I've spent the last year restoring a 68 Mustang, I accept the fact I am no expert and refer to the many, verifiable, Mustang aficionados in this forum.
Recently, much to my dismay and disappointment, I was told my engine has the wrong air cleaner snorkel on the car.  Specifically, the angle of the snorkel bends the wrong way.  In fact, I was told it's for a Thunderbird and not for a Mustang.  Dam, was this guy right?  Did I somehow end up with the wrong part?  See picture.
Need help.....

1968 Mustang 390 S-Code with GT 4V engine
Built in San Jose in Dec 1967
Has emissions, AC, Power Steering, etc.

Thanks for the help.


« Last Edit: October 20, 2015, 07:00:08 PM by E35Pilot »
1968 Mustang S-Code Convertible
Built: San Jose, CA, December 1, 1967

Offline krelboyne

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Re: Need help identifying correct snorkel for 68 390
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2015, 07:57:51 PM »
https://www.428cobrajet.org/id-snorkel

Towards the bottom of the page, it will confirm what you were told.
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Re: Need help identifying correct snorkel for 68 390
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2015, 08:23:26 PM »
Thanks for the reference.  I've seen this page and am familure with the referenced pictures (attached).
However, if all we're going on is the picture showing three different snorkels, it really doesn't answer the question by simply having the words "390 standard" on the ID card.  Standard what...Mustang, Ford, truck?   
What 390 engine configuration...emissions, non-emissions, etc?  I guess I'd like a bit more information before I go make a $$$ purchase. 
1968 Mustang S-Code Convertible
Built: San Jose, CA, December 1, 1967

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Re: Need help identifying correct snorkel for 68 390
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2015, 08:45:19 PM »
Thanks for the reference.  I've seen this page and am familure with the referenced pictures (attached).
However, if all we're going on is the picture showing three different snorkels, it really doesn't answer the question by simply having the words "390 standard" on the ID card.  Standard what...Mustang, Ford, truck?   
What 390 engine configuration...emissions, non-emissions, etc?  I guess I'd like a bit more information before I go make a $$$ purchase.

I've run across that photo before. Not especially helpful. Good news, your snorkel looks like the correct one for a '68 S code motor. The photo below is from WCCC, and although it's listed for Cougar, it is the same one used for Mustangs.

See WCCC for more details:
http://www2.cougarpartscatalog.com/68gtsnorkel.html

Also, the overall length should be 9-1/2 inches.
« Last Edit: October 20, 2015, 08:47:28 PM by WT8095 »
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Re: Need help identifying correct snorkel for 68 390
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2015, 09:06:22 PM »
Allot of cars out there "lost" their air cleaners and heat shields early in life so allot of them today have parts from other vehicles - especially it seems 68 and 69 S codes.

This has been a reoccuring question for those owners over the years along with the year specific heat shields :(

So here are a few examples from unrestored cars I found

8R01S1033xx - Messed with car  (repaint and decals at least :(





8R02S1077xx - Appears to be original



8R01S1145xx - Repaint but no new and incorrect decals





8F03S1143xx - Hard to tell how much is cleaning but a few things have been changed



Should muddy the water a bit.

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Re: Need help identifying correct snorkel for 68 390
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2015, 09:40:52 PM »
Well, I think after looking at the examples Jeff provided, it seems most likely I do not have the correct snorkel.
I guess I'm in the market for a forward-angled snorkel. 
Thanks for all the info.
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Built: San Jose, CA, December 1, 1967

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Re: Need help identifying correct snorkel for 68 390
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2015, 09:51:04 PM »
Just to be clear (as clear as you can be with this subject :(  presently) I do have pictures of the rear bend snorkels on restored car just can't be sure of their history.

Guess the metal S tube allows either to fit ok -

Does the air cleaner base have to be clocked counter clock wise for the snorkel to clear (vent tube off center) on those with the rear bending snorkel) as the forward ones look pretty balanced
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Re: Need help identifying correct snorkel for 68 390
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2015, 10:23:17 PM »
Just to be clear (as clear as you can be with this subject :(  presently) I do have pictures of the rear bend snorkels on restored car just can't be sure of their history.

Guess the metal S tube allows either to fit ok -

Does the air cleaner base have to be clocked counter clock wise for the snorkel to clear (vent tube off center) on those with the rear bending snorkel) as the forward ones look pretty balanced


The base actually fits very nicely on the carb and centered with the snorkel connecting to the s-tube.  The s-tube fits inside the snorkel opening...if that makes any difference.  I read on another site tonight that the s-tube should fit "over" the snorkel opening.  Not sure if this is makes a difference in determining the right part...?




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Re: Need help identifying correct snorkel for 68 390
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2015, 10:55:00 PM »

The base actually fits very nicely on the carb and centered with the snorkel connecting to the s-tube.  The s-tube fits inside the snorkel opening...if that makes any difference.  I read on another site tonight that the s-tube should fit "over" the snorkel opening.  Not sure if this is makes a difference in determining the right part...?

Do you have this style of heat shield? Note the rear mounting tab that extends past the edge of the shield (needs repair on this one).
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Re: Need help identifying correct snorkel for 68 390
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2015, 11:14:26 PM »
Do you have this style of heat shield? Note the rear mounting tab that extends past the edge of the shield (needs repair on this one).

Yes, I believe it is the same I have installed, see pic prior to installation.
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Re: Need help identifying correct snorkel for 68 390
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2015, 09:21:42 AM »
Just to be clear (as clear as you can be with this subject :(  presently) I do have pictures of the rear bend snorkels on restored car just can't be sure of their history.

Guess the metal S tube allows either to fit ok -

Does the air cleaner base have to be clocked counter clock wise for the snorkel to clear (vent tube off center) on those with the rear bending snorkel) as the forward ones look pretty balanced

From my measurements the snorkel offsets are about 1/2". That's a 1" difference between a forward and a rearward snorkel. At a 16" distance from the carb stud, a 1" movement works out to about 3.5 degrees of rotation.
Dave Z.

'68 fastback, S-code + C6. Special Paint (Rainbow promotion), DSO 710784. Actual build date 2/7/1968, San Jose.
'69 Cougar convertible, 351W-2V + FMX, Meadowlark Yellow.

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Re: Need help identifying correct snorkel for 68 390
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2015, 12:40:24 PM »
I've run across that photo before. Not especially helpful. Good news, your snorkel looks like the correct one for a '68 S code motor. The photo below is from WCCC, and although it's listed for Cougar, it is the same one used for Mustangs.

See WCCC for more details:
http://www2.cougarpartscatalog.com/68gtsnorkel.html

Also, the overall length should be 9-1/2 inches.

I don't claim that picture, ;-)  Been on the web site way longer than I have been here.
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Re: Need help identifying correct snorkel for 68 390
« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2015, 02:47:56 PM »

The base actually fits very nicely on the carb and centered with the snorkel connecting to the s-tube.  The s-tube fits inside the snorkel opening...if that makes any difference.  I read on another site tonight that the s-tube should fit "over" the snorkel opening.  Not sure if this is makes a difference in determining the right part...?


Don't recall any application where the S tube fits inside the opening in the snorkel.
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Re: Need help identifying correct snorkel for 68 390
« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2015, 05:44:06 PM »
Well, I think after looking at the examples Jeff provided, it seems most likely I do not have the correct snorkel.
I guess I'm in the market for a forward-angled snorkel. 
Thanks for all the info.

All right, again, I'm convinced I have the wrong snorkel....dam, that guy was right. 
You guys on this site are quite amazing and I tip my hat to the the expertise this site attracts. 

Ok, anyone have a correct 68 390 snorkel for sale, forward bent angle of course......?

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Re: Need help identifying correct snorkel for 68 390
« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2015, 10:59:23 PM »
8R01S108459 from a recent auction. A few things like plug wires and hoses have been replaced, and the smog parts are gone, but the wear on the air cleaner is consistent with the rest of the engine compartment.
Dave Z.

'68 fastback, S-code + C6. Special Paint (Rainbow promotion), DSO 710784. Actual build date 2/7/1968, San Jose.
'69 Cougar convertible, 351W-2V + FMX, Meadowlark Yellow.