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67 390 air filter housing
« on: October 02, 2015, 10:02:52 AM »
Did all S code engines for 67 come with a non snorkel, ''open'' air filter housing ? Would this include cougars too?
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Re: 67 390 air filter housing
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2015, 12:43:40 PM »
The Fairlanes and Rancheros I've seen did not.
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Re: 67 390 air filter housing
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2015, 11:57:41 PM »
I was under the impression that all S codes were the GT engine and got the chrome dress up parts, exhaust manifolds and the chicken wire lower housing.
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Re: 67 390 air filter housing
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2015, 09:12:48 AM »
The 67 GT Cougars had the open type air cleaner.  The Cougars with the 390 but not the GT option had the snorkel type.  These cars have the 6.5 litre badges instead of GT ones.

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Re: 67 390 air filter housing
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2015, 05:05:58 PM »
There are a number of different bases - ones without the attachment for the breathers and those with. Then add the snorkel and non-snorkel combination - Larger cars (Fiarlanes and such ) are a thicker base

Some appears to be related to emission requirements and possibly the trim package though we have original examples that didn't follow that last pattern and may be more of an early late thing.

Confusing subject for some cars that has been hashed around for 20 years

you can also add in the orange or blue CU decal just to confuse things more ;)
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Re: 67 390 air filter housing
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2015, 07:20:10 PM »
Is there a way to identify a reproduction 67 GT open type from an original ?
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Re: 67 390 air filter housing
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2015, 08:48:09 PM »
Is there a way to identify a reproduction 67 GT open type from an original ?

Home made ones have been made for years - unfortunately I don't have that much experience with the 49 state versions. Maybe someone else that has a collection of these can help - seems that the factory open bases were not particularly nicely (neatly) made so it might be difficult though like anything maybe the details (screen shape and design for one) might prove beneficial in the research
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Re: 67 390 air filter housing
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2015, 01:42:02 PM »
Jeff, the one I have is a closed emission part with the nipple. Also am I correct that the housings in general; didn't have part numbers or dates on them? The pic is of a 67 cougar with the 6.5 liter option, would a mustang with a 390 and not the GT package come with this type housing?
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Re: 67 390 air filter housing
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2015, 06:32:21 PM »
Jeff, the one I have is a closed emission part with the nipple. Also am I correct that the housings in general; didn't have part numbers or dates on them? The pic is of a 67 cougar with the 6.5 liter option, would a mustang with a 390 and not the GT package come with this type housing?

The one in the picture appears to be a 49 state style and most likely used on non-GT's (though that still doesn't make allot of sense but that is another subject.

In California have had original GTs with the snorkel also - so maybe a supply of changing regulations there.

Correct no part/engineering numbers or stamping dates (that I can recall seeing) on the base

The one in the picture lacks the breather nipple
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Re: 67 390 air filter housing
« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2015, 01:21:26 AM »
Im guessing that the blue sticker on the cover is the earlier displacement ID, and I don't know about the other one.
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Re: 67 390 air filter housing
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2015, 07:10:59 PM »
Im guessing that the blue sticker on the cover is the earlier displacement ID, and I don't know about the other one.

Never seen the blue style in the picture (straight) used

have seen a few San Jose built with the large semi-circle blue R blue style decal on the lid

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Re: 67 390 air filter housing
« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2015, 05:31:48 PM »
I've been researching 1967 390 Mustang Air Cleaner Assemblies for several years now, and while I do not have conclusive proof of what is and is not correct for every 1967 390 Mustang (there may be variations between the three final assembly plants, and/or the production dates at each one as well), the attached file contains the basic information I have found so far...

If anyone has evidence contrary to my findings, please let me know and I will update my records!
1967 390 GTA Convertible
7R03S110###
76B - V - 6U - 30J - 72 - 1 - U
(Actually built on 9/22/1966 - Eight days ahead of schedule)

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Re: 67 390 air filter housing
« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2015, 06:15:37 PM »
Nice effort - been following these (since there has been so much conflicting findings and info over the years) for about 20 years. Unfortunately so few untouched original cars out there.  Also doesn't help that we didn't collect allot of related VINs and such in the past.

Agree that the taller Fairlane air cleaners are often found today (and in the past) on Mustangs and Cougar likely because many of the factory air cleaners were tossed early in the car's life in an effort to improve performance.

Just a thought but it would help (if you still have access to the info) to start a list with the buildsheet info VIN,  date, DSO, GT/GTA and air cleaner part number, from the examples we have to possibly develop a pattern. Currently using the handling package to indicate the GT package.

I'll start it off

7T02S1583xx   06M    16   GT        C7ZF-F
7T03S1758xx   23M    92   ???       C7ZF-E (special order)
7T01S1843xx   14A    16   GTA       C7ZF-J
7T0?S2118xx   08C    15   non-GT  C7ZF-J
7T02S2150xx   14C    15   GT        C7ZF-E 
7T03S2365xx   27D     41  GT        C7ZF-E
7F02S2010xx   11E    41    GTA      C7ZF-E
7T02S2629xx   07F     11   GT        C7ZF-E
7T01S2934xx   02V    37   non-GT  C7ZF-J


As reported earlier have owned two GTA's (72 DSO) with the snorkel and breather style air cleaners during the 80's that I believe were original to the cars. Picture of the one air cleaner I posted above was from the fastback - still looking for the VIN of that car.


One of the biggest challenge I've has been with the different applications (according to some of Ford part books for service parts) in California using a trim code (the GT package) as a determining factory for emissions.  How side stripes, exhaust tips and grill lights have an effect or emissions really doesn't make allot of sense since nothing in the drivetrain changed between the Non-GT and the GT. Have not see any documentation of this possible difference (in air cleaner application) in any state or smog check books I have from the period - nor in other brands of cars of the period

Just saying :)
 
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Re: 67 390 air filter housing
« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2015, 08:04:16 PM »
Nice effort - been following these (since there has been so much conflicting findings and info over the years) for about 20 years.

Thanks Jeff!

Just a thought but it would help (if you still have access to the info) to start a list with the buildsheet info VIN,  date, DSO, GT/GTA and air cleaner part number, from the examples we have to possibly develop a pattern. Currently using the handling package to indicate the GT package.

Yep - I've got a spreadsheet with data from 39 1967 Mustang build sheets so far, and 14 of them are for 390 equipped cars (see attachment below).  However, instead of the handling package, I've been using the "SPEC EQUIP. GRP." box in Section B/Column 4 to identify the GT package ("X" = GT, blank = Non-GT).

Unfortunately, since most of the data set is from the Metuchen plant, it's hard to say for sure what they were doing at the Dearborn and San Jose factories - especially for the DSO 71 and 72 cars (and thanks for the additional info about your two DSO 72 GTAs).
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1967 390 GTA Convertible
7R03S110###
76B - V - 6U - 30J - 72 - 1 - U
(Actually built on 9/22/1966 - Eight days ahead of schedule)

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Re: 67 390 air filter housing
« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2015, 08:15:16 PM »
BTW - You will notice that 7T02S1583xx doesn't have an "X" in the SPEC EQUIP. GRP. box - that portion of its particular build sheet is damaged, but I'm about 99% sure that it is a GT...
1967 390 GTA Convertible
7R03S110###
76B - V - 6U - 30J - 72 - 1 - U
(Actually built on 9/22/1966 - Eight days ahead of schedule)