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Offline mhubert89

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1968 4speeds toploader original shifter ?
« on: August 31, 2015, 11:20:15 AM »
hi,

can someone post a picture of the original shifter linkage, plate , shifter arms and shifter handle that was comes with the 68 4 speed toploader !

thanks
Mathieu
Mustang Fastback 1968
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Offline J_Speegle

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Re: 1968 4speeds toploader original shifter ?
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2015, 03:48:37 PM »
Big block or small block ?
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Re: 1968 4speeds toploader original shifter ?
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2015, 08:34:23 PM »
Mustang Fastback 1968
289, 4 speed
Built in Dearborn on April 16th

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Re: 1968 4speeds toploader original shifter ?
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2015, 09:37:42 PM »
289 !

Sorry - missed the signature :(

Here is a start. This picture was posted to show the difference between the shift mechanizim. To the left was discribed as the small block while the right unit was described as for the big block

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Re: 1968 4speeds toploader original shifter ?
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2015, 11:17:51 PM »
Sorry - missed the signature :(

Here is a start. This picture was posted to show the difference between the shift mechanizim. To the left was discribed as the small block while the right unit was described as for the big block



That help a lot ! Thanks

And probably someone have a 68 with a 4speeds here to show me a picture of the shifter !!!
Mustang Fastback 1968
289, 4 speed
Built in Dearborn on April 16th

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Re: 1968 4speeds toploader original shifter ?
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2015, 11:28:48 PM »
And probably someone have a 68 with a 4speeds here to show me a picture of the shifter !!!

Its the one with the round reverse lock out

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Re: 1968 4speeds toploader original shifter ?
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2015, 12:02:04 AM »
Its the one with the round reverse lock out





Perfect ! Only need to know now ..the shifter handles ( ball ) its a black one with the R up or down ?
Mustang Fastback 1968
289, 4 speed
Built in Dearborn on April 16th

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Re: 1968 4speeds toploader original shifter ?
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2022, 02:35:13 PM »
Sorry - missed the signature :(

Here is a start. This picture was posted to show the difference between the shift mechanizim. To the left was discribed as the small block while the right unit was described as for the big block


I know the 68 shifters were zinc plated having a shifter replated zinc would a bright zinc finish be typical/expected ?
8F02R218047-  July 18 1968   Dearborn

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Re: 1968 4speeds toploader original shifter ?
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2022, 05:28:32 PM »
I know the 68 shifters were zinc plated having a shifter replated zinc would a bright zinc finish be typical/expected ?

Believe that in general there are many names for pretty much the same finish. Locally some shops use just "zinc" while others use "clear zinc"  or "bright zinc"  Some turn out what almost looks like chrome plate if the surface is perfectly smooth and you need to dull that down or quicken the oxidization with a light coat and rinse of unpainted/cleared wheel cleaner


Others may have different experience's
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Re: 1968 4speeds toploader original shifter ?
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2022, 06:10:05 PM »
Here is a 67 shifter box torn apart into all of its pieces. I don't think the small block 68 is any different although some of the 67s have a spring on the backside to prevent pin rattling.
Mostly zinc with the backup light screw zinc dichromate.

The shifter horseshoe is damn-near impossible to remove. I see now why they sell these since removing the drift pin can easily break that aluminum piece.

The spring is tempered steel color and the spring washer is natural (off the top of my head).
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Re: 1968 4speeds toploader original shifter ?
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2022, 10:51:36 PM »
Jeff, Bill thanks. Bill I did throw in to the box to replated the large shaft that goes through the center this one still had the spring clip under the horseshoe. Also have the zinc dichromate screw for the backup switch.  ;)
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Re: 1968 4speeds toploader original shifter ?
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2022, 10:58:38 PM »
As i recall the shaft was bare steel. Not sure.
And the circlip is a dark phosphate.
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Re: 1968 4speeds toploader original shifter ?
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2022, 04:12:28 PM »
I pick this shifter box up years ago and looks to be an early take off. Originally for a 1965-67 Galaxie. The box is definitely shiny almost like chrome in some places. The center shaft looks like it had a very light coat of possibly silver paint. The spacer tube for the long bolt looks to be bare steel.
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