Topic: 67 Courtesy Lights Under Dash, on all cars

[1965GTFB]

Would all 67s have had under dash courtesy lights on the DS and PS?  I have the leads in the harness but after the car being apart and almost all back together have not come across the lights in the parts boxes.  So either I'm a doof and misplaced a box or it didn't have them.  Were they an option?  I have a 999 report if that helps, it is a console car, std interior.  Car is a FB.

[67gtasanjose]

only stock on convertibles, believe it is optional on Coupes, not sure about fasbacks, seems like they should be standard, but I believe I've seen them w/o the lights

[67gta289]

I think (means not sure) that they were not standard in the FB.  Convertibles standard makes sense since there is no dome light.  For coupe and FB I think they came either with interior décor (which mine has), or possibly with a "light group" option.  I don't recall seeing a lot of information about the light group, but seem to recall some discussion that it includes these lights.  Additional clarifications from those in the know would be great.

[67gtasanjose]

...  For coupe and FB I think they came either with interior décor (which mine has), or possibly with a "light group" option.  I don't recall seeing a lot of information about the light group, but seem to recall some discussion that it includes these lights.  Additional clarifications from those in the know would be great.

I can say that my Coupe, with the interior décor group DID NOT come with these underdash lights and yet was rather smartly optioned otherwise.
Personally, I have and would add these to any of the body styles that didn't come originally with them since the area is very dark at night w/o them. (oh NO! That's not Concours!  sorry, my-bad  )

[67gta289]

I looked in the 67 showroom option book and see a "courtesy light group" option that includes "under hood, trunk, glove box, glove box lock, light under dash on hardtops".

Taking that along with the statement that your interior décor hardtop does not have them, along with my interior décor fastback that does (but with no courtesy light group option), it looks like a reasonable conclusion that convertibles and fastbacks got the under dash lights as standard, but the hardtop did not.

But we are discussing 67, so before the ink was dry on the showroom option book things might have changed 

[dave6768]

My 67 vert has both sides (as does my 68 vert.)   Be aware that they are different.  IIRC the drivers side is shorter and does not extend under the dash as far.

[Hipo giddyup]

 My 11/66 built 67' coupe only has the courtesy light in the center of the headliner. I never had any lights under the dash like the 64-66 models. I can understand the standardized under dash lights on convertibles but now I am questoning if the main harness has any hook ups for these lights under my dash.. My car was not highly optioned and was pretty plain..

[WT8095]

To my knowledge, 67-68 fastbacks did not have a dome light (either standard or as an option). The overhead console option had the map lights. The under dash lights and the rear quarter courtesy lights were standard for fastbacks.

[jwc66k]

The socket/bracket used on the passenger's side is longer than the driver's side, plus the driver's side socket/bracket is the same as 64-66. My notes include that the screw, 374121-S2, is not listed in the AMK Guide. However, in 68 (and 69) they used 55927-S36, 8-18X1/2 pan head screw which may be what you should consider. The RH socket/bracket does not show hardware in either 67 or 68, but may use the RH screw for the glove box hinge to lower dash.
Jim

[67gtasanjose]

The socket/bracket used on the passenger's side is longer than the driver's side, plus the driver's side socket/bracket is the same as 64-66. My notes include that the screw, 374121-S2, is not listed in the AMK Guide. However, in 68 (and 69) they used 55927-S36, 8-18X1/2 pan head screw which may be what you should consider. The RH socket/bracket does not show hardware in either 67 or 68, but may use the RH screw for the glove box hinge to lower dash.
Jim

I'd like to double check this, SelectAire cars may be the same length (at least I have seen several that were)
In the morning I'll try and do a bit of research.

Richard

[midlife]

Provisions for the under-the-dash courtesy lights are standard in all 67 and 68 underdash harnesses.  Each side has a female bullet with two black/blue wires specifically for this purpose. 

[krelboyne]

Regarding the passenger side courtesy light bracket:

According to my version of the 1967 Electrical Assembly Manual, just the long bracket was used. Likely turned to the side a bit to miss the air conditioning box when equipped.

My version of the 1968 Electrical Assembly Manual, indicates that the long bracket was used 'without A/C'.

My research shows the driver side or 'short bracket' under dash courtesy light bracket to have a Ford part number of C0AZ-13763-A. Long bracket on the passenger side has a C7ZB-13763-A Ford part number.

[67gta289]

I have and have had other 67's that have two shorties. They were all non AC. 

[jwc66k]

Let me clarify my comment, the Mustang I'm referring to was a May 67 build, San Jose Fastback, no A/C, console, courtesy group, 4sp.
Jim
Make that "convenience" group.

[drummingrocks]

I always thought they were missing or had been taken off by a previous owner on my Metuchen '67 coupe.  It was an interior decor car, and had the lights in the door as well as the light in the storage compartment in the console (which I thought was odd--why would you want that lighting up along with the courtesy lights)?  I added the underdash lights to my car.  After having a bunch of '65-66 cars, it didn't seem right to not have light in that area, regardless of how it was originally built.