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Offline tim_morrison82

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68 Voltage regulator ID
« on: August 02, 2015, 01:01:27 AM »
Hi All

Just going through my box of parts looking for something to clean up and i came across my voltage regulator. Its been resprayed black with everything else, so i dont know if its original or not. I see the stamped markings on the lid (I A+ S F), and see FA-30 marked on one leg on the base, the other leg has made in U.S.A.

The cover is screwed not riveted.

The underside has a circuit board with the 2 outer tabs full length with ink stamps (circular with an A or V, and other with an A and Y).

The car was in a front on collision at some stage and all repairs were stock Ford parts. This could be an early service part. I bought a repro regulator, with the riveted lid. If its supposed to be screwed and the older one is more correct, would it be acceptable to switch the lid over?

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Re: 68 Voltage regulator ID
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2015, 01:03:29 AM »
Its a san jose car mid december 67 with AC. The AC was not replaced when it was smashed as the firewall pad has no cutouts.
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Re: 68 Voltage regulator ID
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2015, 02:26:21 AM »
Its a san jose car mid december 67 with AC. The AC was not replaced when it was smashed as the firewall pad has no cutouts.
I would think blue cover marked C8TF in yellow.  The C8TF is the 55 amp regulator which A/C cars typically used.I have seen a few NOS C8TF service regulators that had the screws. I believe that is a early late thing. I think yours should have screws.
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Re: 68 Voltage regulator ID
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2015, 03:51:59 PM »
My SF 1968 May/June build 289-2v w/AC has rivets
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Re: 68 Voltage regulator ID
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2015, 05:12:55 PM »
For a Dec 67 San Jose built would expect to see rivets. That's what I've seen on original cars from that plant and period
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Re: 68 Voltage regulator ID
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2015, 03:10:15 AM »
the thing that makes me think its a replacement is the stamping on the bare metal with Made in USA, and FA-30 on the opposite side. these don't sound like ford stampings.

the pic above also doesn't have any stamping visible on the side shown. so i think the jury is out.

where is the date ink mark on these?

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Re: 68 Voltage regulator ID
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2015, 05:11:03 AM »
where is the date ink mark on these?

On the base opposite the side where the wires plug in

Dose the base (at the side where the wires attach) have a cut out in the base so that its more like a notch or like its a cut out (the base still has a "bar" (under the cutout for the wiring plug)?

« Last Edit: August 03, 2015, 05:20:05 AM by J_Speegle »
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Re: 68 Voltage regulator ID
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2015, 10:48:48 AM »
the thing that makes me think its a replacement is the stamping on the bare metal with Made in USA, and FA-30 on the opposite side. these don't sound like ford stampings.

the pic above also doesn't have any stamping visible on the side shown. so i think the jury is out.

where is the date ink mark on these?
I think it is a replacement too for the reasons you mention it will most likely not have the bar under the wire plug going across like in Jeff's picture . The AMK repros have the best ink stamps but none of the repros will have the blue cover and screws . All the blue cover repros will have rivets which will be OK for you because although Jeff and I disagree on the early usage of the blue cover with rivets, 99.9% of others viewing will not know that there was even a blue one with screws at all.  The box the NOS example came from has a pull string to open the sealed box .It was opened for the first time by myself.
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Re: 68 Voltage regulator ID
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2015, 11:42:35 AM »
Ok, that nos pic also knocks outthe screws as they are 1/4" hex head screws.
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Re: 68 Voltage regulator ID
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2015, 03:00:17 PM »
Ok, that nos pic also knocks outthe screws as they are 1/4" hex head screws.
the strange thing about the NOS screws in the pic is that typically we see pan head Philips screws. Like I said the reproduced blue regulators only come with rivets  anyway.  I would  suggest going with one of those.
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