Topic: 67 shoulder belt option

[67gta289]

Anyone out there with an original 67 with the shoulder belt option, or second best pictures of originals with enough details to answer these questions:

1. Were the shoulder belts and buckles black in color in all cases, which might look strange in an otherwise color keyed interior?  Or were all belts changed to black in a non-black interior?  In other words, would there have been red or green lap belts with a black shoulder belt?

2. I understand that there were two separate buckles, one for lap, one for shoulder.  Any pictures of how they were attached?

3. How was the belt attached on the top side (bolt) and how was the strap attached (Velcro)?

Thanks, John

[ruppstang]

John I have only seen one car with this option. I know the owner and can ask him some of these questions.
I think his car has a black interior so no help there. I do believe that only the deluxe belt buckles were used.
The upper half attached in the same location as a 68 but used a clip type nut.
There was a special retainer that I think had Velcro at the front end to hold it up. I will try to get a photo next time I am there. The bottom half bolted up with the inside lap belt.
Marty

[krelboyne]

I have had requests for the clip, it was also used on very early 1968's
It is the Type 3 clip shown in this AMK catalog, note the Ford part number(s) associated. ........ and they are obsolete according to AMK.


I have been unsuccessful in removing them. Broke the only 2 that I have in the yard.

[67bensalemfastback]

I was able to find a 3/8x16 j clip (similar to the fender j-bolt) at NAPA auto that did the trick for mounting the bolt.

Marty - I would be very interested in seeing a few detailed photos of the special retainer when you get the chance to take some.   How it mounts, where it's mounted, what it looks like!     I was discussing this with John on another thread.

Thanks
Mike

[J_Speegle]

Would not want to rely on a J clip for an anchor point in an accident 

Couple of pictures of the large capture nut/mount

[WT8095]

FYI the generic name for these is "cage nut". There are similar ones out there from different suppliers, but I haven't seen any with the double "hooks" on one end.

[J_Speegle]

Apparently they came in colors other than black if this is a correct restoration. No reason to believe it isn't.

Blue interior - blue shoulder belt. From the Mid-America show this last weekend

7F02K156xxx  built 2/20/67

[67gta289]

Thanks Jeff.  An assumption debunked?  Or another 67 running change?  Would need a lot more data naturally

[J_Speegle]

Added VIN and real build date - that I should have included with the post

[ruppstang]

It looks to me like a 68 set up with the SS front hook/ hanger. 67s were not like that.
Marty

[J_Speegle]

It looks to me like a 68 set up with the SS front hook/ hanger. 67s were not like that.

Yes it looks like a 68 style but I've not seen any original ones at that end.

Might ask Jeff Y next time you see him - he did the car and it was judged at MCA a few years back

[ruppstang]

The only one I have seen is Mike Poston's 67 K code fastback. R-A Motorsports did it as well. Stewart of Python did the belt restoration on it. I'll get pictures of it the next time I am there if I can.
Marty

[J_Speegle]

The only one I have seen is Mike Poston's 67 K code fastback. R-A Motorsports did it as well. Stewart of Python did the belt restoration on it. I'll get pictures of it the next time I am there if I can.

No reasons to take pictures the picture I posted is that car.

[67gta289]

Do we know if the car has the option listed on the Marti report?  Even if it did, does not mean of course that during the life of the vehicle, including but not limited to the restoration, things could have been changed.  However, if the option was added after the fact, the components used would lose credibility.  Just stating the obvious I suppose.

[ruppstang]

No reasons to take pictures the picture I posted is that car.

Wow I judged that car at the Des Moines IA. MCA national and did not remember that front retainer. I did not know Mike then but thought at some point that we had discussed that Stewart had done the correct front retainer. I am sorry that I did not have my facts strait. I do know that it does have the option listed on the Marti.
Here is the drawing of what the front retainer should look like.
Marty