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Offline Bongoman

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This can't be right. Can it???
« on: May 02, 2010, 10:58:35 PM »
I've determined that I have a Ford Thompson power steering pump.  So it is supposed to be painted teal blue.  Okay, I can live with that.

(When I bought the car in 1982, the pump was Ford corporate blue.) 

I bead blasted my pump and found two layers of a blue that is close to Ford corporate blue.  The older blue looked lighter than corporate but not off by a whole bunch.

I ordered the special teal-blue-for-power-steering-pumps rattle can from NPD.  I started to paint it and this is what it looks like.  Yikes!  It's what I'd call a dark metallic gun metal color with a slight hint of blue.

Questions:
(1) Does this look like the correct teal blue color? :-[

(2) Does anyone have a picture of a teal blue pump installed on a Ford engine?  (I'm having a hard time visualizing it next to a blue Ford valve cover.)

(3) Is the pulley attached to the pump supposed to be painted teal blue or semigloss black?

Many thanks.

Bongoman
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1970 Mustang Mach 1
351c2v
Serial no. 0R05H130405
Built 1/14/70 at San Jose

Offline J_Speegle

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Re: This can't be right. Can it???
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2010, 01:03:39 AM »
I ordered the special teal-blue-for-power-steering-pumps rattle can from NPD.  I started to paint it and this is what it looks like.  Yikes!  It's what I'd call a dark metallic gun metal color with a slight hint of blue.

Questions:
(1) Does this look like the correct teal blue color? :-[

It looks like the NPD color I got and used. A bit more blue than many of the pumps I've seen (I've seen slightly greener blue ones) but IMHO in the region of what could be produced with a non-exact formula than seems to change between batches


(2) Does anyone have a picture of a teal blue pump installed on a Ford engine?  (I'm having a hard time visualizing it next to a blue Ford valve cover.)


Pictures of three original cars - 67-69









(3) Is the pulley attached to the pump supposed to be painted teal blue or semigloss black?

No the pulley was not installed when the pump was painted. It would have been semi-gloss black and added later
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Offline Bongoman

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Re: This can't be right. Can it???
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2010, 02:46:54 AM »
Thanks Jeff.  Even in your pictures the color seems to be different in each.   :-\

Another question:  In a 1970 San Jose car, would the p/s pump bracket be semigloss black?
BongoMan

1970 Mustang Mach 1
351c2v
Serial no. 0R05H130405
Built 1/14/70 at San Jose

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Re: This can't be right. Can it???
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2010, 01:04:06 PM »
Wait.  I think I found the answer to my latest question.  The MCA judging rules indicate the p/s mounting bracket and spacer are to be natural aluminum.  (Rule 4. R.)
BongoMan

1970 Mustang Mach 1
351c2v
Serial no. 0R05H130405
Built 1/14/70 at San Jose

Offline J_Speegle

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Re: This can't be right. Can it???
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2010, 10:44:22 PM »
Wait.  I think I found the answer to my latest question.  The MCA judging rules indicate the p/s mounting bracket and spacer are to be natural aluminum.  (Rule 4. R.)

The aluminum bracket is natural - the steel adjusting part is semi-gloss black
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Re: This can't be right. Can it???
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2011, 03:05:09 PM »
Are you sure the bracket is aluminium for a 1970 Mach 1 and not just for a Boss? Mine does stick to a magnet...

Greetz,
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Re: This can't be right. Can it???
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2011, 07:47:18 PM »
Are you sure the bracket is aluminium for a 1970 Mach 1 and not just for a Boss? Mine does stick to a magnet...

Well - what engine does your car have?   

Just being a Mach I does not tell us much  :)
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Re: This can't be right. Can it???
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2011, 08:02:50 PM »
Ok sorry. It's a 351 C 4v from San Jose. Vin: 0R05M120587

Another question: What color do the shockmount-BOLTS have? Mine are painted black as are the shockmounts themselves.

Thanx!

Erwin

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Re: This can't be right. Can it???
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2011, 08:16:17 PM »
Ok sorry. It's a 351 C 4v from San Jose. Vin: 0R05M120587

The small block and the 351C both brackets appear to be done in semi-gloss black


Another question: What color do the shockmount-BOLTS have? Mine are painted black as are the shockmounts themselves.

The upper carriage bolts that attach the shock mount to the shock tower or the bolts for the shock to the shock mount on the front ?
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Re: This can't be right. Can it???
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2011, 08:25:46 PM »
Thanx!

The first. Shock mount to the shock tower (3 bolts).

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Re: This can't be right. Can it???
« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2011, 04:53:27 PM »
Thanx!

The first. Shock mount to the shock tower (3 bolts).

Those are carriage bolts that typically have the  dark heated treated look
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Re: This can't be right. Can it???
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2011, 04:56:02 PM »
So I should clean them instead of leaving them black painted?

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Re: This can't be right. Can it???
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2011, 02:14:58 PM »
So I should clean them instead of leaving them black painted?

Yes if your cleaning them with a paint remover - blasting or something like that will change the metal finish
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