Topic: original '67 289 radiator identification

[socalgt]

Did all original 289 radiators have the fittings to accept automatic transmission fluid lines?  Were they stamped on top with the ford part#?

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[67gta289]

Not all had the auto cooler.

Stampings varied based on supplier.  It is my understanding that "generally" the San Jose cars had radiators supplied by Modine, and have a "W-MO" stamp with month/date reverse stamped into the top tank.  Also I think that for the Modine the part number is stamped on one of the foldover straps on the top.  But that last statement may only be true on some.

For Dearborn I don't recall anything on top at all.  On the driver's side vertical channel you should see DEP and the part number is in the same area.

Not sure about Metuchen.

This should get the ball rolling - I'm looking forward to learning more, and even being corrected if incorrect in what I said.

Some pics attached

[J_Speegle]

Did all original 289 radiators have the fittings to accept automatic transmission fluid lines? 

No

Were they stamped on top with the ford part#?

We would need to know what plant your looking for/at.  Makes a difference

[socalgt]

Looking for markings present on 289 radiators installed at the Mutechen assembly plant and wheather the fittings for automatic fluid lines were on all original radiators installed there.

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[Bob Gaines]

Looking for markings present on 289 radiators installed at the Mutechen assembly plant and wheather the fittings for automatic fluid lines were on all original radiators installed there.

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As reply #2 indicated -only automatic transmission equipped cars had the cooler line fittings . 4 speed cars did not have the fittings . The Metuchen cars had the engineering number stamped into the side strap . FOMOCO raised letters on the top tank. No date code on the top tank.

[socalgt]

Thanks for the replies

[Fastback2013]

Here a picture of what actually is on my car.
It is a San Jose, not a metuchen so only for showing generally.
Regards,
Jeroen

[67gtasanjose]

Here a picture of what actually is on my car.
It is a San Jose, not a metuchen so only for showing generally.
Regards,
Jeroen

Jeroen, yours looks to be a service replacement radiator. The round FoMoCo logo, the date code and engineering code indicate this. Not  at all unlike the 98% of 50 year old cars that got a radiator replaced somewhere along their lifetime...like mine, yours is a replacement. I looked at my radiator yesterday. I had my radiator re cored in 'circa 1985 by Modine Radiators while I lived in So. Calif. I ASSUME, I got my original tanks & straps back, but that is not guaranteed (say if they were unusable) Looking at the radiator MODINE sent back to me at that time, I have NO date codes in tank, no date codes on straps and FOMOCO (squared logo) on top tank. I'm OK with that, but I suppose it might be  "NOT concours" going by descriptions in this thread. 

IMHO, if you are not attempting Thoroughbred class in MCA Judging, some of these details become rather trivial. We need to pick our battles. Minor issues (like this) can be worked out at a later date if need be. As for me, I intend to used my square-logo tank with no date code. Nothing yet proves beyond any doubt that it is right or wrong at this time but since I know it was re cored before, obviously it could be incorrect going by this information.

Richard

[Fastback2013]

Hello Richard,
Thanks for the explanation. I didn't know for sure, but have my thoughts about those date codes on my radiator 
It looks that it is the safest way not to apply in the Thoroughbred class in MCA Judging 
Kind regards,
Jeroen

[hopeto]

Here's a shot of my 67 K Code Metuchen radiator top tank. Originally exported to Guatemala. 4 speed car so no automatic cooler. No other markings or date codes on top tank.
Not sure of originality?

[J_Speegle]

67 San Jose examples


Close up of date





Typical top tank markings for identification

[Deuce]

Resurrecting this thread to seek additional info.

Bottom pic in Reply #10 is a nice example of a '67 W-MO 289 radiator for a San Jose car. 

See the top strap tabs on this 20" W-MO 66 - 9 radiator in photo below.  The corners of the tabs have square 90-degree cut corners, instead of the rounded/radiused corners on the Reply #10 example above.  Assuming the rounded corners are correct and square corners are not?

 

[Deuce]

Thanks for the additional info Jeff.

Here's another thread: 67 San Jose Convertible C Code Thermactor w/AC-Unrestored Picture Thread 67 San Jose Convertible http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=8272.0

Photos E3 and E11 show similar rounded corners on the straps, on a '67 C code.

E3


E11

[J_Speegle]

Thanks for the additional info Jeff.

Here's another thread: 67 San Jose Convertible C Code Thermactor w/AC-Unrestored Picture Thread 67 San Jose Convertible ............

Photos E3 and E11 show similar rounded corners on the straps, on a '67 C code.

Yes unfortunately that one "lost" its identification tag/label when it was likely rodded out some time in the past. Was and or is an air condition car, reason for the extra cooling style radiator. Likely have more than 100 picture examples with this particular style of radiator

[67gtasanjose]

Jeff, I think your round-top bracket radiator pictured (now removed) here may be a 16-inch radiator (I-6 example?), noting what looks to be the wider side bracket at the lower edge of image (not completely seen in this image).

Aside from this, my understanding is that any 289 with Thermactor & Select-Aire would have Extra Cooling option (also K-codes too, even w/o Select-Aire). Other 289's WITHOUT Select-Aire would typically receive a 20-inch STANDARD cooling radiator. I have not seen any 289's with a 16-inch radiator (though I would never rule this out for Eastern/Midwest DSO's). I did not look at the MPC to confirm any of this, only reporting my personal observations over the years which were mostly Western DSO examples.