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Offline nham3407

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What wheel cover
« on: March 17, 2015, 03:42:34 PM »
Considering going closer to original on my 67 SJ GT.  Without anything specifically noted on the Marti Report what wheel cover would have been on the car from the factory?
67 GT S-Code, San Jose, 06/67
72 Mach 1, Dearborn, 01/72
68 Merc. Cyclone, Lorain, 12/67 (Red)
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Re: What wheel cover
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2015, 03:50:37 PM »
Generally, when no wheel cover or wheel option is noted on the marti report or window sticker, it would mean the car came with body color painted wheels with the dog dish center caps... or what some refer to as "poverty caps", lol :-)

Do you have any original paperwork?  Would not be uncommon for the dealer to install something else, like SS wheels, wire covers, etc...

Have any of the original wheels to inspect for ivy gold paint?
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Offline nham3407

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Re: What wheel cover
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2015, 03:53:10 PM »
No original paperwork other than the Owners Manual listing the original buyer and no luck finding him.  When I purchased the car in 1989 it had some 70's chrome wheels on it.
67 GT S-Code, San Jose, 06/67
72 Mach 1, Dearborn, 01/72
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Re: What wheel cover
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2015, 04:28:06 PM »
Somebody else should verify my reply but I was under the understanding that unless you had the Competition Handling package (which would have the 15" steel wheels with wire covers) that your GT would have come standard equipped with Styled Steel wheels and wide ovals.
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Re: What wheel cover
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2015, 05:12:22 PM »
My Marti has it stated on it that my GT came with styled steel wheels and F70X14 wide ovals.
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Re: What wheel cover
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2015, 05:30:23 PM »
Somebody else should verify my reply but I was under the understanding that unless you had the Competition Handling package (which would have the 15" steel wheels with wire covers) that your GT would have come standard equipped with Styled Steel wheels and wide ovals.

The documents that I have don't include Styled Steel wheels with the GT equipment group option.  One example from the "showroom option book" is attached.

I suspect though that it was a very popular set of options paired together.

Not sure about wide ovals.  I too thought that they were part of the GT package that did not also have comp. suspension.  I don't see documentation for that, though.  But the build sheets I've seen always have them.

Just added pages 38 and 39 that cover comp. suspension.
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Re: What wheel cover
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2015, 05:35:27 PM »
Please keep the ideas coming.  I really am not a fan of the Deluxe Wheel cover although I have a set of those on hand.  I would like to be as true to original as can be determined.
67 GT S-Code, San Jose, 06/67
72 Mach 1, Dearborn, 01/72
68 Merc. Cyclone, Lorain, 12/67 (Red)
68 Merc. Cyclone, Lorain, 6/68 (White)

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Re: What wheel cover
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2015, 06:54:40 PM »
Comparing your Marti report to a few others, including mine that call out the styled steel wheel option, and with the other information posted, I think you are relegated to the wheel cover if you want to be true.  The question remains what type of cover.   
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67 289 GTA Dec 20 1966 San Jose
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Re: What wheel cover
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2015, 07:42:37 PM »
I did a little more research and found that the 2+2 supposedly received full size wheel covers as standard - so no dog dishes if that is true.

The word document shows the different types of wheel covers/wheels that I found surfing through about 30 Marti reports.  The list is:

1. No cover/wheel listed
2. Wheel Cover
3. Deluxe Wheel Cover
4. Wire Wheel Cover
5. Styled Steel Wheels
6. Unique Wheel Cover (15" for competition suspension)

In the 1967 showroom option book, page 42, it identifies "wheel covers - gleaming full-width beauty (standard on 2 + 2's)"

Putting this together, a 2+2 with no optional covers or wheels would get a standard full size wheel cover.

I'm not sure why the showroom option book does not list all of the different wheel cover variations though.
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Re: What wheel cover
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2015, 11:07:26 PM »
You might try contacting Kevin Marti and ask his opinion, I'm sure he would know.  Some of the dealer literature was printed before models became available and could change during the production year. 
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Re: What wheel cover
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2015, 02:20:42 PM »
Interesting. My Marti report doesn't list a wheel cover.

What I think are the original wheels, are black, (no signs of white body color) and wheel covers are a well used set of deluxe covers.

My car does have the Exterior Decor Group, 7.35x14-4Ply Rated Tires, White Rayon Sidewall Tires.

Non-GT 390 Dearborn convertible.

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Re: What wheel cover
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2015, 08:45:17 PM »
I’ve got a database of Vehicle Order Images (VOI) from 77 different 1967 Marti Reports, and have determined that the wheel/wheel cover options are called out in Column 65 of the VOI - with the following codes:

•   1 = Standard Wheel Covers (corresponds to an “X” in Sec. B/Col. 25 on the 1967 Build Sheets)
•   2 = Styled Steel Wheel Covers (corresponds to an “X” in Sec. B/Col. 26 on the 1967 Build Sheets)
•   3 = Styled Steel Wheels (corresponds to an “X” in Sec. B/Col. 22 on the 1967 Build Sheets)
•   4 = Wire Wheel Covers (corresponds to an “X” in Sec. B/Col. 23 on the 1967 Build Sheets)
•   5 = Wheel Covers with Knockoff Hubs (corresponds to an “X” in Sec. B/Col. 24 on the 1967 Build Sheets)
•   6 = Styled Steel Wheels & Rear Bumper Guards (unknown how this was called out on the Build Sheets)

I’ve only seen the “2” code listed on the Marti Reports for a couple of 1967 Ford Galaxies.  I initially thought that the “2” code might have been used with the 15” Galaxie Wheel Covers that were included with the 1967 Mustang Competition Handling option as well, but I later came across a Marti Report for a 1967 Mustang Convertible Competition Handling car, and it was blank in Column 65...

I’ve only seen the “5” code listed on a report for a Ford Thunderbird and another for a Mercury Parklane; and code “6” is shown on one report for a Cougar with Styled Steel Wheels and Rear Bumper Guards - so codes “2”, “5” and “6” probably aren’t really relevant to any conversations about 1967 Mustang wheel treatments.  There may be some other VOI Column 65 codes out there as well (7-9/A-Z), but I haven’t come across any Marti Reports with any these codes list yet – so these probably aren’t relevant to 1967 Mustangs either.

That leaves us with four possibilities – Codes “1”, “3”, “4”, or blank...

There are 33 Mustang Fastbacks in my database:

•   None of them are listed with a code “1” in Column 65 (I suspect this is due to the fact that the Standard Wheel Covers were already included with the 1967 Mustang Fastback)
•   22 - are blank, with no codes listed at all in Column 65
•   10 - have code “3” for Styled Steel Wheels
•   1 - has code “4” for Wire Wheel Covers

There are 4 other non-Fastback Mustangs in my database that also have blanks in Column 65, and they are:

•   3 – 390-4V GT/GTA Convertibles (including my own GTA Convertible – see my Marti Report below)
•   1 – 390-4V GTA Coupe

I’m the third owner of my car, but I’m about 99% sure that it originally came with Standard 14” Wheel Covers (they were still on the car when I bought it in January, 1983), so I’m not sure why there is a blank Column 65 of my VOI. 

It doesn’t seem to be a “390” or “GT/GTA” thing as there are VOIs for seven other 390 and/or GT/GTA Coupes and Convertibles in my database that all list code “1” in Column 65, so I’m kind of stumped as to why some cars do call it out with a “1”, while it’s blank for the others...
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Re: What wheel cover
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2015, 09:35:03 PM »
Interesting information ;)


There are 4 other non-Fastback Mustangs in my database that also have blanks in Column 65, and they are:

•   3 – 390-4V GT/GTA Convertibles (including my own GTA Convertible – see my Marti Report below)
•   1 – 390-4V GTA Coupe


Add my 390-4V Non-GT Convertible to the 'blank in Column 65' list


I’m the third owner of my car, but I’m about 99% sure that it originally came with Standard 14” Wheel Covers (they were still on the car when I bought it in January, 1983), so I’m not sure why there is a blank Column 65 of my VOI. 


+1

Based on the history of my car and the black wheels and wheel covers that are with it, I would guess it came with the Standard Wheel covers too but always the possibility the dealer made a swap. Without the original owner, something we'll never know for sure.

Dog dish hubcaps and white wheels would really make my car a sleeper.  ;)
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Raven Black - Palomino Pony
1967 Dearborn Mustang Conv.
Wimbeldon White - Red
1984 SVO - 2A