Topic: "Teal" blue power steering pump?

[Bongoman]

Question regarding the correct color of my power steering pump.

The MCA 1969-1970 rules indicate at page 7, Section 4, ENGINE, subsection R, Power Steering: Semi-Gloss Black Components. . . "Pump (may be all black or all teal blue)."

I am not certain if my pump is a TRW (which would be black) or a Ford Thompson because any tag identifyling its manufacturer seems to be long gone.  I am assuming it was originally blue because it is blue now.

My question is whether the pump should be painted Ford corporate blue (like all the other blue underhood components) or a teal color as indicated in the MCA rules?

Thanks for any insights you can offer.

[TLea]

It is a teal color. The spray can that NPD sells now is real nice. I worked with them about 2 years ago matching to original samples and a PPG formula I had made and it look real good.

[J_Speegle]

................. My question is whether the pump should be painted Ford corporate blue (like all the other blue underhood components) or a teal color as indicated in the MCA rules?

You must have missed this one when you were reading through the FAQ'a

Question 7 - I've seen power steering pumps (66-73) painted semi-gloss black or a teal blue. Which is correct for my car?

During the production of the classic Mustang production years Ford used/installed power steering pumps made by one of two suppliers. Multiple suppliers were a common practice for Ford during this period.  The following chart will allow you to determine what pump your car has and what the original color was.

Supplier                     Identification                                 Pump Color
TRW                           On tag  2nd digit in bottom line      Black                         
Ford Thompson           On tag  in center line                    Teal/Blue

[Bongoman]

Thanks Jeff.  I read the FAQ but I didn't think it answered my particular question.  My question relates to what color blue should be used on a non-black power steering pump.

The MCA rules say "teal blue" and your FAQ says "teal/blue".   I read your teal/blue to mean teal OR Ford Corporate Blue.  (But it could also mean a teal shade of blue which is what the SCA rules seem to indicate.)

Still not sure if the pump should be teal or Ford Corporate Blue.

Thanks for any clarity you can offer.

[J_Speegle]

Sorry

Its referred to by many as Teal blue

It was a metallic shinny dark blue sometimes with a green tint

Currently many are using DAR 12366 or DAU 4086 - Dark Poly Sapphire Blue  mixed at their local paint shop. And these forumlas really depend on what is legal to purchase and use in your region



If your going to use a spray gun or using NPD's current rattle can

[Bongoman]

Jeff, no need to apologize.  You have your hands full with all these questions.

Thanks for the clarification.  Not sure if I will go the spray gun route or rattle can for the teal but now I know what I need either way.

[TLea]

Still not sure if the pump should be teal or Ford Corporate Blue.

Thanks for any clarity you can offer.

Maybe read the first post under your original? 

[Bongoman]

Thanks Tim.  Sometimes people have to tell me things twice before it sinks in. 

[bryancobb]

Is the 1966 interior color called "13025 LIGHT TURQUOIS POLY." a color close color to what a Teal power steering pump needs to be?

I'm gonna get a half-pint of Concept  to paint mine.  If not, the only option is to get a rattle can of the color from NPD, and do a PPG spray-out card. 

Bryan
 

[bryancobb]

Thanks folks, but nevermind.

I just found the early 2008 thread on another forum where it was
nailed down by people in-the-know to be ...    PPG DAR 12366 Chesapeake Blue Metallic

[J_Speegle]

Is the 1966 interior color called "13025 LIGHT TURQUOIS POLY." a color close color to what a Teal power steering pump needs to be?

IMHO - nope

[hkopp]

I just wanted to add to this thread for future search reference regarding the paint color of the Ford 'teal' pumps.  Prior to finding the ppg code Jeff provided I too was searching for the correct color to spray several pumps for my 69 cars.  If PPG is not available where you are (or you dont want to fork out the extra $$ for ppg) here are a few cross reference codes that are the same as PPG DAR 12366:

1. 1961 Ford Fairlane/Galaxie Chesapeak Blue - code H, Ford code M1367
2. Dupont 4157, 202-94879, 181-94879   
3. Acme Rogers 8941
4. Omni AU (this is what I went with) Brand code 12366, OEM code H,M30J1367, color name: Express Blue Poly

I wanted to cross it to a Martin Senour as its a decent paint and affordable...but couldn't.  Omni is a good affordable paint and should hold up well.  Mixing is 4:1:1.  I hope this helps...

[J_Speegle]

I just wanted to add to this thread for future search reference regarding the paint color of the Ford 'teal' pumps.  ................

Thanks for the extra effort and posting. Will work the info back into the FAQs for everyone that may search in the future.

[Rusty68]

Hi Guys!
My first post on this great forum!

Brief introduction of myself:
my name is Michael. I live in Austria, am married an have two incredible boys (9 and 7 yo).  I'm work in the IT department of an hospital, so this doesn't recommend me as the best classic car technician
As of March 2015 I'm the proud owner of a 1968 Mustang Coupe. The car has the 289 engine with 2V Carb. Regarding my Marti Report, the car was built Dec. 1st 1967 in San Jose and delivered to Arizona (Homes Tuttle). The Paint (what's left over respectively shining through the patina ) is Gulfstream Aqua Options narrow down to A/C and Power steering.
The car is in preety good shape, no rust and overall is left in a quite original condition.
I got the car from a german guy who bought it last year in Montana.
In Austria there are pretty strict restrictions regarding old cars, so I drive the car only between April and October. In the meantime it sits in a dry garage and gets improvements... and love

That's how I came here...
Right now I'm rebuilding the Power Steering Pump. The FAQ were realy helpful, but my Pump is not
The pump is black, the ID tag reads (see attached pic):
HBA BF
I F
7 B 7
...so I suppose it's a Ford Thomson Pump and should be Teal.
BUT: the pump doesn't look like it's been oversprayed in the past, besides: no paint underneath the ID tag.
As I want to leave the car as original as possible, I would appreciate it very much, if someone could enlighten me and tell which color the pump should have.

Thanks a lot and take care!

Cheers,
Michael

[jwc66k]

Michael,
  Welcome to the forum. I'll let those familiar with 68 cars to answer your question. Remember, you got 48 years of unknowns to contend with so there's no telling what has been done or why.
Jim