Topic: 1967 FE four speed speedometer cable routing help.

[J_Speegle]

....... Is the first picture posted here from a 1967 vehicle?

As I included in that post that picture is from a 67 Shelby in the #400's - currently as close as I could find a picture to your cars number

The picture posted here matches the new 1967 Mustang assembly manual too. The Osborne manual I bought about 13 years ago or so didn't even show view W, on page 25...........

Interesting that there was an addition from the time that Jim assembled these manuals out a a hug pile of moldy, stinky pages. Not sure what to make of the "new found" pages. Is there a different date on each version - I'm guessing that there should be

Understand - research can be challenging and we often don't have a "smoking gun" Sometimes a builder/owner has to go with a choice - expecting that there will be more information found in the future and an adjust might need to be made. As always IMHO you need to consider the audience (will the car be shown or pictures of this detail get into a magazine where it might influence others)   and "error", if it is one, on the safe side for the current moment.  Or blaze a new path - often not the easiest of choices if you go that route

[1967 eight barrel]

Here are both clips. The clip on the bottom is listed by a few suppliers as correct for 67-70 four speed cars, the one on the top is the Ford listing in the Osborne assembly manual, in zinc, as the S32 finish would indicate olive green.

[mtinkham]

I know the post was regarding a 67 FE, but I have a picture of a 68 S code built in NJ. Speedometer cable is not in place, but you can see the clip.  Not sure if this helps.

[J_Speegle]

Looking at what you have to pick from, the pictures posted, your cars assembly date I would suggest that you use the J shaped one as Bob suggested also.

Not sure that the shape of the reproduction is exactly the same since none of the pictures include a nice close look at the flat end - but its what you can find at the moment. Can always quickly change it out later if need be

If we include cars built at other plants during approx the same time they look to have used the same.

mtinkham-  Your 68 example appears to be the same or similar to the late 67 San Jose version rather than the early one

[1967 eight barrel]

Jeff,
The early does belong on the accelerator bellcrank bracket as well?

[J_Speegle]

Jeff,
The early does belong on the accelerator bellcrank bracket as well?

Best guess at this moment would be like the one BB non- San Jose example we have. Lower inboard screw on the bell crank rather than the upper one shown in the picture not from a BB

[Bossbill]

I was looking for help on the finish of some firewall clips and found this post.
My Osborne doesn't list this clip, but I have some 30 year old pics of the clip installed and a few closeups.
Although there are some comments about early and late install of my particular clip, it is found on my March Shelby 4 speed car. This position looks original as the bolt holding it to the firewall is identical to all the other lag styles here.

I saw no finish I could identify. It looked plain on the back with some black spray bomb on the front from a PO (who must have owned stock in Krylon black).

[jwc66k]

The clip in your pictures is close to the drawing of the installed clip in the 68 Mustang Chassis Assembly Manual (AM0025, pg 54) identified as Ford p/n 372186-S (used for the same purpose as the 67 speedometer cable but installed different). Unfortunately neither 372186-S or 371992-S (from the 67 Mustang Chassis Assembly (Am0020, pg 25) is documented in any of the available hardware parts books.
Further examination shows the two clips are of a different design, 371992-S is a "J" clip, 382186-S is a "loop" type.
Jim

[Bossbill]

I believe, based on part numbers and tape, that my speedo cable is original. I think the clip is too, but definitive proof -- no.

I went out to the parts car built the same week in SJ to see what it had but since it's a C4 it routes differently. However, there is a factory hole under the speed cable through-hole. This would appear to indicate that SJ had plans for this hole and this clip may be that use on 4 speed cars.

I do try to use words like 'appear', 'think', etc since I am not the original owner and definitive proof is impossible. Even then ...

[ruppstang]

Are there any other clips or attachments for the speedometer cable between the clip we have been looking at and the transmission?

[Bossbill]

Yes. Here I've zoomed in on a  pic of the passenger side of the trannie. It's the only pic I have of that detail. I believe that's another clip.
This is noted in the Chassis Manual on page 25 for 4 speeds at circle 'U', I believe.

I think the orange pipe on that side is the exhaust. At the time of this pic I had removed the engine but the trans was held up with cords, as was the exhaust. The attachment point looks like a silver circle.
 

[ruppstang]

The print quality is so bad on this page in my assembly manual it is hard to tell where the clip mounts and what type of clip it is. I noticed on my speedometer cable housing there is a metal band, that is probably where the clip is to go on it.

[Bossbill]

Good call on that being the barrel band on the cable.
According to circle 'U' in the Assembly Manual it should be mounted with a 'P' shaped clip.
The picture would seem to indicate the clip completely encircles the band.

However, my personal disassembly manual indicates "speedo cable/pax floor holder" was a J hook (I drew a question mark without the period).
My manual also indicates validates my picture of the clip under the accelerator firewall opening.

Previous notations on whether or not my car is stock should apply.

[1967 eight barrel]

I posted this some time ago. However, I found two cars. One Oct 66, the other Dec 66. Both had a J clip, not a loop/barrel clip like your illustration. The barrel clip I posted was a '69 and later. The J clips are mounted on the bottom bolt of the accelerator pedal.

                                                                                -Keith

[jwc66k]

I posted this some time ago. However, I found two cars. One Oct 66, the other Dec 66. Both had a J clip, not a loop/barrel clip like your illustration.

Another example of a "running change".
Jim