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Offline Mike_B_SVT

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Re: 1970 CJ starter cable routing
« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2015, 08:13:26 PM »
I removed and cleaned up my starter cable clip, so I thought I would add some pics here for future reference.




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Re: 1970 CJ starter cable routing
« Reply #16 on: April 11, 2018, 09:02:35 PM »
Digging up an old topic in the hope of finding some new information...

I started a topic in the 428 CJ registry forum when I found out that the reproduction starter cable I bought a while back is too short to be secured with the two J-straps that Ed mentioned earlier in this topic. Here's that topic for background info:

https://www.428cobrajet.org/forum/index.php?topic=25106.0

Knowing that the repro is too short doesn't help in figuring out which engineering number should appear on a "correct" cable and how long that cable should be. Does anyone know? What was originally factory-installed?

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Re: 1970 CJ starter cable routing
« Reply #17 on: April 13, 2018, 12:05:35 PM »
Knowing that the repro is too short doesn't help in figuring out which engineering number should appear on a "correct" cable and how long that cable should be. Does anyone know? What was originally factory-installed?

Asking another way, what's considered "correct" for the MCA's Concours and Thoroughbred classes?
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Re: 1970 CJ starter cable routing
« Reply #18 on: April 13, 2018, 04:47:30 PM »
The part number printed on my probably original cable is D0ZF-14431-C and has 2 clamps. December 3rd Dearborn.
« Last Edit: April 13, 2018, 04:50:53 PM by cobrajet_carl »
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Re: 1970 CJ starter cable routing
« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2018, 06:08:51 PM »
The part number printed on my probably original cable is D0ZF-14431-C and has 2 clamps. December 3rd Dearborn.

Thank you! Do you know how long it is?
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Re: 1970 CJ starter cable routing
« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2018, 05:44:29 PM »
Thank you! Do you know how long it is?
I couldn't remove it but I measured it using string and it is very close to 46 1/2 inches long.
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Re: 1970 CJ starter cable routing
« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2018, 05:58:17 PM »
I couldn't remove it but I measured it using string and it is very close to 46 1/2 inches long.

Thanks for helping out Carl. Is that end to end or from some other landmark on the cable? 
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Re: 1970 CJ starter cable routing
« Reply #22 on: April 16, 2018, 06:24:00 PM »
Thanks for helping out Carl. Is that end to end or from some other landmark on the cable?
End to end. It was roughly 26" from the solenoid end to the near side of the first hook and 20.5" from there to the end of the starter terminal. Roughly as the cable is bent nearly 90 degrees at the starter end.
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Re: 1970 CJ starter cable routing
« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2018, 08:30:09 PM »
Thanks Carl
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Re: 1970 CJ starter cable routing
« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2018, 01:50:50 AM »
I couldn't remove it but I measured it using string and it is very close to 46 1/2 inches long.

That's how I measured mine as well ~ string.  Trying to be as accurate as I could.  Mine also measured 46.5" long, tip to tip.
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Re: 1970 CJ starter cable routing
« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2018, 03:28:14 PM »
I braved the bark scorpions and AZ brown spiders to remove the cable and measure it. It actually appears to be closer to 45.5" with me stretching it as much as I could.
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Re: 1970 CJ starter cable routing
« Reply #26 on: April 18, 2018, 11:14:27 AM »
thats a good 70 cable  picture & i am sure black cable has shrunk a little in the SW heat  . remember that  2 J strap cable is on a dec dearborn car & the early 70 cj cars may have had the 70 b9 cable with just 1 strap  but they are the short rounded corner bigger hole j strap like i had made because the only repo starter cable j strap is the longer smaller hole squared off type.
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Re: 1970 CJ starter cable routing
« Reply #27 on: April 19, 2018, 11:33:05 PM »
The marti cable dozf-14431-c  46''  should work with the 70 j -strap

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Re: 1970 CJ starter cable routing
« Reply #28 on: April 21, 2018, 01:27:12 AM »
I braved the bark scorpions and AZ brown spiders to remove the cable and measure it. It actually appears to be closer to 45.5" with me stretching it as much as I could.

That's a great pic, and solid evidence of how they were.  With comparatively few 70 CJ's built, it seems hard to find good examples of details sometimes.

Thank you for your bravery! 
Mike B.

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1970 Cougar Eliminator (Competition Gold / Black Decor Interior), 428SCJ, Ram-Air, 4-speed w/ Hurst shifter
Built: Dearborn, Oct 6th, 1969
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Re: 1970 CJ starter cable routing
« Reply #29 on: July 08, 2018, 06:50:03 PM »
Just adding a couple of pictures to illustrate one attachment point as part of the routing


« Last Edit: July 08, 2018, 11:40:14 PM by J_Speegle »
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