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Offline Hipo giddyup

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Re: Rally pac tach and clock resto
« Reply #30 on: February 20, 2015, 01:59:16 PM »
Thank you Ron.. I am first going to be masking and painting the back side of the tach lens to darken it up. While I have the tach apart I am going to see if I can install another scavenged blue instrument light cover from my spare 65 gauge cluster. If that won't work I will be ordering a few green colored 1895 bulbs.. I will try and post some pics over this weekend when I attempt the blue light cover from the cluster along with the additional black-out.
1967 Springtime Yellow Coupe, 289 2v 3spd, Metuchen built, Nov. 17th 66'
1966 Sahara Beige Coupe, 289 2v 3spd, Dearborn built, July 21st 66'
1964 1/2 Pagoda Green Coupe, 260 2v 3spd, Dearborn built, June 30th 64'
1966 GT350 Fastback clone, 289 HiPo, 725cfm Holley, 4spd, SanJose built, Nov 25th 65'

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Re: Rally pac tach and clock resto
« Reply #31 on: February 20, 2015, 09:26:52 PM »
Funny you should mention the masking and re-painting lens - that's another "potential" remedy on my list I meant to refer to yesterday.  I look forward to seeing your results.

Regards,

Ron
1965 "A" Code 289 Mustang GT - Planned Build Date July 19 / Bucked July 21 Metuchen / Factory AC & PS / C4 Auto / 3.00 open

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Re: Rally pac tach and clock resto
« Reply #32 on: March 01, 2015, 01:58:41 PM »
So I took the tach apart again and replaced the light bulb with an 1895g (green) bulb since the light diffuser wasn't producing a good enough green glow. While in there I also removed the plastic light cover since it was falling apart from age and heat. Pretty happy with the results. With the tach lens out I used fine line tape, masked off the lens around the blackout area and repainted it to make it darker and not allow any remnant light to pass through. Now just waiting on a good day to install... :)
« Last Edit: March 01, 2015, 02:01:06 PM by Hipo giddyup »
1967 Springtime Yellow Coupe, 289 2v 3spd, Metuchen built, Nov. 17th 66'
1966 Sahara Beige Coupe, 289 2v 3spd, Dearborn built, July 21st 66'
1964 1/2 Pagoda Green Coupe, 260 2v 3spd, Dearborn built, June 30th 64'
1966 GT350 Fastback clone, 289 HiPo, 725cfm Holley, 4spd, SanJose built, Nov 25th 65'

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Re: Rally pac tach and clock resto
« Reply #33 on: March 01, 2015, 03:22:57 PM »
Looks much better without the light "bleed through" at the bottom of the tach.  Repainting the bottom portion (blacked out portion) of the lens worked out well.  What paint did you use to repaint it?

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Ron
1965 "A" Code 289 Mustang GT - Planned Build Date July 19 / Bucked July 21 Metuchen / Factory AC & PS / C4 Auto / 3.00 open

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Re: Rally pac tach and clock resto
« Reply #34 on: March 01, 2015, 05:55:36 PM »
Thanks Ron. I used what I had handy which was Krylon satin black. It came out uneven so not sure if I have an older can? I had to put three coats on and due a little clean up around the lens but I'm satisfied. I kept checking it in front of a bright light as some areas didnt seem to get as much coverage? I would think any flat or satin would do.. Also smart to tape the tip for the tach adjustment. No need for paint on it.
1967 Springtime Yellow Coupe, 289 2v 3spd, Metuchen built, Nov. 17th 66'
1966 Sahara Beige Coupe, 289 2v 3spd, Dearborn built, July 21st 66'
1964 1/2 Pagoda Green Coupe, 260 2v 3spd, Dearborn built, June 30th 64'
1966 GT350 Fastback clone, 289 HiPo, 725cfm Holley, 4spd, SanJose built, Nov 25th 65'

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Re: Rally pac tach and clock resto
« Reply #35 on: April 15, 2015, 10:43:09 AM »
Just wanted to update you guys on my Rally Pac. Finally got time to install it over the weekend. I created wiring to retain the Pertronix 1, and not effect the tach. Hooked everything up and got super lucky with the tach working!!! I am very pleased with the results. It really makes the interior look great. 8)
1967 Springtime Yellow Coupe, 289 2v 3spd, Metuchen built, Nov. 17th 66'
1966 Sahara Beige Coupe, 289 2v 3spd, Dearborn built, July 21st 66'
1964 1/2 Pagoda Green Coupe, 260 2v 3spd, Dearborn built, June 30th 64'
1966 GT350 Fastback clone, 289 HiPo, 725cfm Holley, 4spd, SanJose built, Nov 25th 65'

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Re: Rally pac tach and clock resto
« Reply #36 on: April 15, 2015, 12:07:08 PM »
Just wanted to update you guys on my Rally Pac. Finally got time to install it over the weekend. I created wiring to retain the Pertronix 1, and not effect the tach. Hooked everything up and got super lucky with the tach working!!! I am very pleased with the results. It really makes the interior look great. 8)

That looks great!  Nice job.  I'm in the midst of repainting my tach lens and servicing my clock.  I hope to get everything back together this weekend.


Ron
1965 "A" Code 289 Mustang GT - Planned Build Date July 19 / Bucked July 21 Metuchen / Factory AC & PS / C4 Auto / 3.00 open

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Re: Rally pac tach and clock resto
« Reply #37 on: May 11, 2015, 05:07:48 PM »
UPDATE - I finally have everything working like I want to (no excess light coming through the tach lens).  I found that using paint to darken the lens and eliminate the light bleed through didn't work as well as I wanted.  The paint didn't adhere to the lens surface very well and covered the lens really unevenly - even with multiple coats of paint).  As a result, I went really low tech and used electrical tape which I then trimmed with an exacto knife.  IMO, it turned out really well (the light bled through is gone).  In addition, I made sure both the tach and clock have the proper light bulbs. 

The tach uses a 1895 bulb and the clock uses a 1816 bulb. Not only do the 2 bulb have different brightness levels (1895=2, 1816=3 MSCD*) but their shapes are different as well which is the major reason for using both types of bulbs. The 1895 is a globe shaped bulb (used the dashboard lights and glove box light) whereas the 1816 is a tubular shape so that the filament is placed further down in the holder to get the light where it needs to be.  Using these bulbs will make the clock and tach the illuminate with same greenish color and brightness as the rest of the instrument panel.

In addition, I was able to get the clock working again too.  Fortunately there was nothing mechanically or electrically wrong with the clock.  It just needed to be cleaned and oiled.  Once I was able to get it working again I then found out how to fine tune the clock (as it was running a bit fast).  There is a lever which controls the spring tension for the clock balance wheel (this is what the winding the clock spring activates).  After some adjustments and letting the clock run using a test rig it is now keeping time extremely well.  I also learned an important sidenote.  The act of adjusting the time on the clock (using the adjuster dial) actually fine tunes the clock speed.  As a result, you have to be careful not to adjust the clock too much at once or it will no longer keep time accurately. 

Finally the #1 cause of failure in these clocks is a near dead battery which doesn't have any enough power to kick open the winding mechanism and keeps the "points-like winding mechanism closed" which then overheats and burns out the copper windings on the spring actuator (which winds the clock).

So in short, the Rally Pac now looks and functions exactly as it did back in '65.  :-).  The tach still produces a whiter light as the diffuser is a light redirection lens with a blue strip of plastic on it.  The clock is now brighter and blends in nicely with the brightness of the dashboard lights.

*MSCD - ["Mean Spherical Candela", or "candlepower"]

Regards,

Ron
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1965 "A" Code 289 Mustang GT - Planned Build Date July 19 / Bucked July 21 Metuchen / Factory AC & PS / C4 Auto / 3.00 open