Topic: 67 289 POWER STEERING HOSES & PARTS I.D.

[67gtasanjose]

I am looking to ID these parts to see if they are correct for my application 67 SJ 289 11/66

Parts are off an April 67 unknown assembly plant, (updated 2/5/15, probably a San Jose Car, Shock Caps were painted black on the donor car~ they look to be unrestored, painted black is typical of ONLY SJ cars, going by other posts at this site) Other than date codes, do these look correct? @Blue Dot Specialties, I did not see this pressure hose available. These hoses and valve look to be unmolested, notice the hose clamp pictured for securing the hoses around the valve. It was untouched before me.


Richard

[krelboyne]

Early 1967 power steering hose to the control valve was 1/4 npt fitting. I do not know the cut off date for 5/16 fittings.

Most ram cylinders have dates on them, from what I have noticed.

[Bob Gaines]

I am looking to ID these parts to see if they are correct for my application 67 SJ 289 11/66

Parts are off an April 67 unknown assembly plant, other than date codes, do these look correct? @Blue Dot Specialties, I did not see this pressure hose available. These hoses and valve look to be unmolested, notice the hose clamp pictured for securing the hoses around the valve. It was untouched before me.


Richard

Richard , the hoses and hardware appear to be 67 289 parts from a early 67 . Without looking at any dates on items such as hoses or slave cylinder the large crimp clamp immediately identifies this as a early 67 version. The crimp 65-early 67 clamp secures the pressure and return lines to the control valve. The later version (march 67 ?)  used a screw design band clamp similar to what you can still buy today at the hardware or autoparts store. The two shorty slave cylinder hoses have three ribs which is typical for 67 and early 68. bluedot repros the 68-70 style short hoses with the fine rib lines around the entire circumference. ether will work 67-70 but only one style is correct for 67-early 68 or later 68-70 .I hope this helps.

[Fastback2013]

I was reading this topic over again, because I must also take care of my PS.
Something I noticed is that the original bracket (C7ZA-3A652-A?) that mounts the PS slave cylinder to the drivers side frame rail.
In attachment a picture of my current set up. If I see correct, than is the existing bracket different than the original bracket as seen in Richard's first pictures?
Is mine then aftermarket and not correct? Or where there different types of brackets?
If so, isn't there a problem witz the height of my existing bracket compared to the original bracket?
This means that my cylinder slave would mount 'much' higher?

Another question is where the bracket (with the insulator) for the PS hoses must be attached?
That isn't (anymore) mounted on my car.
If some one has pictures, that would be very helpfull for me.
Please note that I have a small block.

Thanks for your answers and effort,
Jeroen

[67gtasanjose]

Jeroen, the bracket you have is typically used when some exhaust headers are used, so yes it is incorrect.

The parts you need are in these pictures and can be available once I compare them to my other original parts.

I haven't forgotten about the seat trim, we need to Private Message each other some more.

Richard

[67gtasanjose]

Richard , the hoses and hardware appear to be 67 289 parts from a early 67 . Without looking at any dates on items such as hoses or slave cylinder the large crimp clamp immediately identifies this as a early 67 version. The crimp 65-early 67 clamp secures the pressure and return lines to the control valve. The later version (march 67 ?)  used a screw design band clamp similar to what you can still buy today at the hardware or autoparts store. The two shorty slave cylinder hoses have three ribs which is typical for 67 and early 68. bluedot repros the 68-70 style short hoses with the fine rib lines around the entire circumference. ether will work 67-70 but only one style is correct for 67-early 68 or later 68-70 .I hope this helps.

Yes this helps a lot, I'm not sure how I missed you answering before...but thanks.
The PS Pressure hose has a white pinstripe with a gap every 6 inches, in the gap it has a EHR 3840-0617
Return hose has no marks that I can make out.
"Shorties" also no ink marks found, 3 ribs, a fat rib, then skinny rib and another fat rib, 6 swedged crimps at each end.
Slave cylinder has 7C22A with a Bendix logo and 128551

As I has said before, I was told it was an April 67 car (evidence suggests it to be a S.J. built car), that was never confirmed but if I have it correct, the 7C22A puts it an March 22, 1967, correct?

[Fastback2013]

Hello Richard,

Thanks for the answer.
I know that my car originally didn't came with exhaust headers, but for the moment they must stay a little longer 
It is good to know that it is for that reason the bracket was changed, that I didn't know.
Kind regards,
Jeroen

[Bob Gaines]

Yes this helps a lot, I'm not sure how I missed you answering before...but thanks.
The PS Pressure hose has a white pinstripe with a gap every 6 inches, in the gap it has a EHR 3840-0617
Return hose has no marks that I can make out.
"Shorties" also no ink marks found, 3 ribs, a fat rib, then skinny rib and another fat rib, 6 swedged crimps at each end.
Slave cylinder has 7C22A with a Bendix logo and 128551

As I has said before, I was told it was an April 67 car, that was never confirmed but if I have it correct, the 7C22A puts it an March 22, 1967, correct?

Yes.

[67gtasanjose]

OK, thanks again Bob. It looks like the seller was at least close on the April 67 date, considering a couple weeks in between was the "norm" in this time period. It also indicates the "crimp" style clamp was still being used into late March sub-assemblies (at least @ whatever assembly plant this unit was installed (evidence suggests it was built in S.J) ) The date code from my original slave cylinder is 6K25B, only an 8-day spread from the actual build date of the car. My original cylinder is damaged, so I am replacing it. (if somebody has a closer one and wants a 7C22A cylinder in it's place, let me know)

So these items look to be "Correct" styling (excepting the date code, naturally) for my build date/location. This answers the first half of my original question. Maybe I wasn't completely clear on the 2nd question

I didn't notice Blue Dot making this hose. Is this hose available reproduction or is it possible to have one made up like these? (refering to BOTH Pressure and Return hoses)

Are there other ideas I haven't thought of, other ideas of reusing these original samples. The Pressure hose and the "shortie" hoses look to be "usable" but the return hose is frayed severely near the crimp end.

Richard

[ruppstang]

I would not use original hoses on a car that I was going to drive much, as you know most hoses deteriorate form the inside out. I have never found any one that makes the small block pressure hose that is correct.
Marty

[67gtasanjose]

I emailed Blue Dot and Gregg answered me back:

"Our PS4U6710 is the hose you describe that is only for the 1967 cars.
Our PS3U4 would be your low pressure hose and the 2 short hoses are our
PS4U1A & PS7U1B.
You would have to match the pump hose from the pictures on our web site and
its possible we don't make it."

Thanks,
Gregg

These hoses do not match up to the ones I pictured when I began this thread, and since they have been confirmed as OE (by Bob G. anyways), I wrote Gregg back again to ask if they do Custom Orders...Short answer: "NO"

[Bob Gaines]

In case you needed one. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-68-NOS-Mustang-289-1967-Shelby-GT350-Power-Steering-Pressure-Hose-/331472158630  .

[67gtasanjose]

NPD also has a very nice looking reproduction hose and a return hose both much like the original ones.

PRESSURE HOSE: https://www.npdlink.com/store/products/mustang_hose_p_s_pressure_concours-149123-2821.html

RETURN HOSE: https://www.npdlink.com/store/products/mustang_return_hose_power_steering_concours-149060-2821.html

[67gtasanjose]

NPD also has a very nice looking reproduction hose and a return hose both much like the original ones.

PRESSURE HOSE: https://www.npdlink.com/store/products/mustang_hose_p_s_pressure_concours-149123-2821.html

RETURN HOSE: https://www.npdlink.com/store/products/mustang_return_hose_power_steering_concours-149060-2821.html

JUST A FEW MINUTES LEFT on the eBay Auction.

I'm out at $130, $100 over NPD's hose price (considering shipping costs too)
For my money, the reproduction hose will serve the needs.

[ruppstang]

That repop would not do it for me.
Marty