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Offline ChrisV289

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Fuel Line Routing
« on: January 22, 2015, 12:30:14 AM »
What was the approx change date from the fuel line being routed from in front of the distributor to behind the distributor on 289's?
Chris
1965 Honey Gold Fastback (SJ 10/29/64)
1965 Caspian Blue Fastback (SJ 06/03/65)
2009 V6 Mustang Coupe

Offline J_Speegle

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Re: Fuel Line Routing
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2015, 02:34:17 AM »
With a quick look through my pictures it appears (at least from what I've got) the change over took place between 5F20878x and 5F26191x
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Re: Fuel Line Routing
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2015, 07:18:04 AM »
What about San Jose cars?
Chris
1965 Honey Gold Fastback (SJ 10/29/64)
1965 Caspian Blue Fastback (SJ 06/03/65)
2009 V6 Mustang Coupe

Offline J_Speegle

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Re: Fuel Line Routing
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2015, 01:01:40 AM »
Wonder if the fuel line is enough of a change to be related to one of the Change Levels noted on the aluminum ID tag

Looking at projected build dates what I've found so far appears to suggest the end of the 64 production year - July/Aug 64 or so

Will see if I have enough good data points from San Jose from that period and report back Chris
« Last Edit: January 23, 2015, 05:18:58 PM by J_Speegle »
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Re: Fuel Line Routing
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2015, 07:19:49 AM »
Thanks Jeff!
Chris
1965 Honey Gold Fastback (SJ 10/29/64)
1965 Caspian Blue Fastback (SJ 06/03/65)
2009 V6 Mustang Coupe

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Re: Fuel Line Routing
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2015, 04:56:52 PM »
My Setember 2, 1964 Dearborn built 65 Fastback with a 289 had the fuel line routed behind the distributor.
65 Dearborn Built Fastback
Approximate Build Date, September 2, 1964
289 4V, C4, PS, PB, No A/C

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Re: Fuel Line Routing
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2015, 05:21:03 PM »
My Setember 2, 1964 Dearborn built 65 Fastback with a 289 had the fuel line routed behind the distributor.

Guessing that your posting the projected build date from the door tag.

That might work within the dates posted above considering that your was projected to be built on the 2nd and those dates can be off by 3 weeks or so typically. We do have examples off allot more than that but rare a occasion
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Re: Fuel Line Routing
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2015, 07:17:42 PM »
Mine was built at the end of Oct of 64 so I'm sure it is supposed to be behind.  Just wanted to double check.  Reason for asking is I changed out the timing cover and water pump last year to a date code correct one but for some reason the fuel line clip does not even come close to the fuel line (clip was missing before).  I don't know if the line is correct or not but it fits perfectly in between the block, power steering pump and AC brackets.  See pic below of how far away the clip is:





If anyone has a suggestions let me know....
Chris
1965 Honey Gold Fastback (SJ 10/29/64)
1965 Caspian Blue Fastback (SJ 06/03/65)
2009 V6 Mustang Coupe

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Re: Fuel Line Routing
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2015, 07:48:58 PM »
Mine was built at the end of Oct of 64 so I'm sure it is supposed to be behind.  Just wanted to double check.  Reason for asking is I changed out the timing cover and water pump last year to a date code correct one but for some reason the fuel line clip does not even come close to the fuel line (clip was missing before).  I don't know if the line is correct or not but it fits perfectly in between the block, power steering pump and AC brackets.  See pic below of how far away the clip is:

If anyone has a suggestions let me know....

These were not bent so that they would fall into place exactly IMHO and would require the worker assembling the engine to pull or push the line slightly into place and have the clamp hold it into place after that. Looks like the worker may have skipped putting the top clamp on the car - threads on the hole appear (from the picture) not to have been used but could just be the angle also

On the original question in the thread I checked my San Jose pictures and the change for the fuel line from behind to in front of the dist appears (based on those pictures) to be much later than what the Dearborn pictures suggested.  Finding cars built well into spring and later 1965 with fuel lines still routed behind the distributor.  Highest San Jose VIN with it routed behind that I found was 5R247510

So as expected using the current condition of 50 year old cars can include allot of changes by PO's though most, I would guess when asked, would report that what we're seeing is the "way they were"
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Offline ChrisV289

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Re: Fuel Line Routing
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2015, 08:02:57 PM »
Jeff, the fuel line clip was missing when I was putting everything back together.  When my dad had the motor rebuilt in 04 and they put a 1971 timing cover and a cast iron water pump on they must of forgot the clip.  That is a reproduction clip I ordered when I installed the correct timing cover and aluminum water pump.  I just could not get the top part to fit with the way the line is and with the power steering pump and Ac compressor in the way it makes it that much more difficult to get the top part of the fuel line clip in.  I thought maybe I didn't have the right fuel line in if the one in front ran differently and would fit better in the clip...
Chris
1965 Honey Gold Fastback (SJ 10/29/64)
1965 Caspian Blue Fastback (SJ 06/03/65)
2009 V6 Mustang Coupe

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Re: Fuel Line Routing
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2015, 12:25:00 AM »
Guessing that your posting the projected build date from the door tag.

That might work within the dates posted above considering that your was projected to be built on the 2nd and those dates can be off by 3 weeks or so typically. We do have examples off allot more than that but rare a occasion

No, I'm not basing the build date on the door tag.  I don't want to hijack this thread, so I'll start a new thread to get your and others input.  I'll make the topic "Help Determining Build Date"
65 Dearborn Built Fastback
Approximate Build Date, September 2, 1964
289 4V, C4, PS, PB, No A/C