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Offline Mike_B_SVT

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Re: 1969 and 1970 Horns with and without oil cooler
« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2014, 05:13:25 PM »
Well, it's no wonder they had to add a grounding wire for the horns, what with the reinforcing bracket in between that serrated bolt head and the radiator support.
So basically they ended up connecting the horn to the reinforcing bracket.

I thought only the '69 cars got the reinforcing plate.  So how (relatively) common were the reinforcing plates on the '70 oil cooler cars?

Great write up!  I wish it had come out a month or two ago when I was fidding with getting my horns remounted properly.  Looks like I'll be going back and redoing a few relatively-minor things.
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Re: 1969 and 1970 Horns with and without oil cooler
« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2014, 08:07:37 PM »
The re-inforcement plate was not always on these cars....cant say what precentage only that they should have been and just were not always there.  If you have an original paint car its possible to see if the plate was there based on the marks left (or not left) by the bolts.
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Re: 1969 and 1970 Horns with and without oil cooler
« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2014, 08:08:15 PM »
I updated the article based on everyone's input.  If anyone sees an issue let me know. 
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Re: 1969 and 1970 Horns with and without oil cooler
« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2014, 08:17:35 PM »
Thanks will add a link in our Library here to it. Keep up the good work :)
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Re: 1969 and 1970 Horns with and without oil cooler
« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2014, 10:23:53 PM »

Glad to share the information and put it together for future reference. 
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Re: 1969 and 1970 Horns with and without oil cooler
« Reply #20 on: June 27, 2014, 10:20:30 PM »
     Question about the horn bracket holes:  if two are for the horns what could the other three be for ?    Just curious,  Thanks.  Brian
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Re: 1969 and 1970 Horns with and without oil cooler
« Reply #21 on: June 27, 2014, 10:42:07 PM »
     Question about the horn bracket holes:  if two are for the horns what could the other three be for ?    Just curious,  Thanks.  Brian

What three Brian?

The ones to the left of the horn mounting holes (where the bolts pass through)  are indexing holes for the tabs at the horn bases. IF those are the ones your referring to

Does look like the arrow on the right, in the picture, is pointing to a hole that is a bit bigger than allot of the others I'm looking at but maybe its just than angle of the picture

These ??

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Re: 1969 and 1970 Horns with and without oil cooler
« Reply #22 on: June 27, 2014, 10:52:10 PM »
OK thanks Jeff.   Actually I was looking at the pic Marcus has in his graphics showing the bracket from the back side and on a 70 radiator wall.  Oh and I don't have one of these so some somewhat interesting.
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Re: 1969 and 1970 Horns with and without oil cooler
« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2014, 10:59:11 PM »
OK thanks Jeff.   Actually I was looking at the pic Marcus has in his graphics showing the bracket from the back side and on a 70 radiator wall.  Oh and I don't have one of these so some somewhat interesting.

Must be the support/reinforcement bracket your referring to

In that case there would be one extra hole that went unused - but I've got no idea why that one is there. The other 4 would be for the mounting and indexing

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Re: 1969 and 1970 Horns with and without oil cooler
« Reply #24 on: June 28, 2014, 02:30:54 PM »
A/C condenser mounting strap hole

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Re: 1969 and 1970 Horns with and without oil cooler
« Reply #25 on: June 30, 2014, 04:23:37 PM »

Yes....the "extra" hole...is actually always there.  This is for the condenser on cars that were equipped with air conditioning.  I have some pictures in the article that show that being used with the condenser. 
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Re: 1969 and 1970 Horns with and without oil cooler
« Reply #26 on: June 30, 2014, 07:43:44 PM »
Yes....the "extra" hole...is actually always there.  This is for the condenser on cars that were equipped with air conditioning.  I have some pictures in the article that show that being used with the condenser.

Agreed both sides but in the picture Brian posted the hole appears to have been drilled out and the horn moved more towards the passenger side to use that drilled out hole as a locator for the horn - and falls short of that. Just focusing on 69's since that is the picture posted and it eliminates the other difference's with location of the horns

69 without AC



69 with AC



69 Dearborn passenger side horn mount examples


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